They killed off Tracey. She was hyped up for 8 seasons, she delivered a performance that rivaled the hype, then they kill her off. She was the most likable character on the show by miles.
is anyone else incredibly pissed off they never touched on the pineappple
They said they were never going to finish the pineapple story because no one actually knows about the pineapple, the only person that was there for the pineapple was Ted and he was too drunk to remember.
The declining quality of the show in seasons 8 and 9 should have been a huge red flag that they wouldnt do this well.
The ending was so ridiculously stupid. For seven seasons the audience has been getting the idea that robin and Ted are not meant to be together. Robin ended up with Barney, Broke up with Barney, was approached by Ted, Robin said she didn't like Ted that way anymore, and since season 5, Robin getting married to Barney has been a central theme of the series.
Mind you season 5 to season 9 is FOUR YEARS.
Then in the final episode, after FOUR YEARS of buildup, you divorce Barney and Robin, Kill off Tracey--the mother and the point of the whole show, HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER, and get Ted back together with Robin after 7 years of putting Ted off.
You CANNOT do this. The story writing is complete crap. The incongruity is astounding and shocking. When the audience waits nine years for the mother, you cant after NINE years get her together with Ted only to kill her off several episodes later. Likewise, when Robin is on and off with Barney and their marriage is a central theme of the series, you can't just divorce them in one ep and get her back together with Ted in the final one episode.
The problem was not the ending. The ending was very obviously what they intended to do all along. Ted said it himself. He didn't have a Top 5. He had a Top 1, and it was Robin. Yes, he ultimately moved on, and he loved Tracy. But ending up with Robin long after Tracy died is completely natural. And Tracy dying was not at all surprising. There were many moments of foreshadowing leading up to this, the most obvious being the scene a few episodes prior when future Tracy/Ted are sitting at the Farhampton Inn reminscing. Barney and Robin divorcing also should not have surprised anyone. Barney was never marriage material.
The problem was Season 9 in and of itself. The season was just generally awful. The wedding was in EVERY episode. The finale should have been the story of the whole season, but spread out over 22 episodes, instead of 40 minutes. The wedding should have taken approx. 3 episodes. We should have had time to see Tracy and Ted together between 2014-2030. We should have had more time with Barney and Robin to really see the differences between them and understand why they needed to be divorced. They certainly managed to spend enough time on the Lily + Marshal sidestory, there is no reason that they couldn't have had the whole season be just mini-stories for each group and clever ways to tie them together.
Absolutely agreed with all the points. Kinda wish I never saw it and the show finished with the Gary Blauman episode. Ugh.
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I agree with Cyan, the biggest problem was season 9 as a whole. Personally I didn't hate the ending but I do think it could have been better. The "twists" were in keeping with the show overall so it's hard for me to feel disappointed or surprised. The episode wasn't perfect by any means but it was definitely the best and most watchable of the season by a long way.
I would have like to see more of Ted and his baby mama dating and all that but that's another thing I can't really be angry about. After all, the show is "How I MET Your Mother", not "How I DATED Your Mother".
These last two or three episodes killed it for me. I've enjoyed the show for a long time, and enjoyed quite a few episodes this season, but this resolution... it's just disappointing. All the buildup, the character development, everything, leads to nothing. It's How I Met Your Mother, not how i met the woman I married after your mom died, because it wasn't your plan to have Ted end up with anyone but Robin. If that was the plan, do that. Don't spend multiple seasons telling us that's not how it works, and then retcon it all away in two episodes. Don't spend the last season building character development in the opposite direction to do that. I agree with Cyan that maybe that was intended all along, but then you make the last season completely different. Show Tracy and Ted, have Barney and Robin get married and divorce, but make it make sense. Make it a story that lasts more than 45 minutes if it's going to go against 8 and a half seasons worth of story. Nerd rant done for this forum, time to talk to friends.
It was literally just the first couple minutes of the finale in the bar scene followed by the wedding ceremony scene followed by Ted talking to Tracey at the train stop scene then cutting off to the future Ted saying "that's how I met your mother" to the kids. Seriously, I thought that was a better ending though. Tracey dying just ruined everything for me.
I liked the ending, I even cried. From my understanding, they had this ending planned from season II when they filmed it.
And maybe it would have made sense in 2006 after season two, but during season nine in 2014, it felt shoehorned.
The alternate ending on YouTube was perfect. Normally I'd have trouble accepting alternate endings in the face of the original, but the original ending is just so out there and wrong for the tone of the story that it's surprisingly easy this time. It's like if Law and Order or some other real-world, serious show ended with some crazy alien invasion, you'd be like "clearly that's just dumb and doesn't fit at all, I'm just going to believe they all retired or something."
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That alternate ending is only 'perfect' if you just ignore the repeated instances throughout the series where they drop hints that the mother isn't going to be around in the end. I'm not saying it is an inherently bad ending. Of course it's not. That scene at the train station is a beautiful moment. I'm saying that they had a particular ending in mind, and made multiple references throughout the series to this end, and the ending that you guys like is not consistent with that. I would have been furious if they just left that hanging. I would also argue that said ending makes Barney/Robin's divorce even less meaningful. At least this way, in the end, Robin and Ted end up together.
But I really did like the ending. Ted struggled with love for so long(including getting left at the altar etc), but in the end, he got to be with BOTH loves of his life.
I liked the ending, I even cried. From my understanding, they had this ending planned from season II when they filmed it.
There's nothing inherently wrong with the ending. Every that happened makes sense given the characters and what we've been told thus far.
-Barney changed because he loved Robin. Now that they are divorced, it does make sense that he'll fall back to his old ways.
-Ted and Robin had a pact that they'll get together if they're single at 50 or something.
The issue is that everything in the last couple of seasons seemed to be leading up to a completely different ending. While it may make sense, it is incredibly unsatisfying, as virtually everything that happened in the last 2-3 seasons goes "poof". It is no longer relevant. Things and characters in the much earlier seasons make sense, but not the last 2-3 seasons.
I know that the show writers had the ending in mind since season 2, when they got the kids filmed. From what I've read, the show writers never quite expected for the show to go this long, and so they had to... extend things quite a bit.
That's fine. But when that happens, then you should alter your end-game plans. Instead of showing a whole bunch of things that become virtually meaningless 10 minutes into the finale.
You cannot show the ending with the assumption that there has been only 4-5 seasons when the show has gone on for 9.
I liked the ending, I even cried. From my understanding, they had this ending planned from season II when they filmed it.
Sure that's fine. I know they did it so that the actors portraying the kids would look young at the finale (when they are now adults). Understandable.
However, if you weigh that against the fact that Ted spent several seasons getting over Robin just to have 2 minutes getting back with her in the end is very frustrating. If push comes to shove, I would've killed off Tracey but not have Ted get back with Robin. I love Tracey and I think she was seriously the best character in the show (even if she was around for a season) and complimented Ted perfectly.
That alternate ending is only 'perfect' if you just ignore the repeated instances throughout the series where they drop hints that the mother isn't going to be around in the end. I'm not saying it is an inherently bad ending. Of course it's not. That scene at the train station is a beautiful moment. I'm saying that they had a particular ending in mind, and made multiple references throughout the series to this end, and the ending that you guys like is not consistent with that. I would have been furious if they just left that hanging. I would also argue that said ending makes Barney/Robin's divorce even less meaningful. At least this way, in the end, Robin and Ted end up together.
But I really did like the ending. Ted struggled with love for so long(including getting left at the altar etc), but in the end, he got to be with BOTH loves of his life.
By "repeated instances throughout the series," I assume you mean "twice, vaguely, and both within the last 28 episodes of a 208 episode show?"
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I agree completely with Magickware. I can understand why all of the characters do what they do, like Barney and Robin splitting. I could see Barney gradually changing back as well. I'm unhappy Tracy died but that's because I loved the character, not because it doesn't fit the story. I just don't like how the last few seasons are leading up to a completely different ending than the last 10 minutes of a show that's been going on for 9 seasons. I understand it may have been planned but plans change, or should, when circumstances change. They didn't have to use their prerecorded footage, they didn't have to have Robin and Ted get together. Part of it even makes sense that they do, but that's not to say that they should have.
I actually didn't mind the way it ended and thought Ted's daughter made sense when she called him out on why he was telling the story in the first place. While they did drag it out more than they probably should have, I think the ending actually did tie the series together pretty well.
He wants to move on after her death, but doesn't want his kids to think he was trying to forget her, so he tells the story of how they met to try and make them understand not only how much he loves and appreciated the mother, but also that he loves Robin and wants their blessing to move on.
He didn't want to waste hours of their time as an attempt to entertain them, it was important to him that they understood what he was feeling and what he went through to get where he is now.
Unlike most people, I only started watching the show within the last season, so I didn't really notice a big decline in quality at any particular point. Some of the jokes started getting a little old, but I never felt like older episodes were better in any way. That said, watching this ending did kind of make it obvious that they kinda lost the plot somewhere along the way.
The obviously pre-recorded footage of the kids didn't make any sense in the context of Season 9, or of anything past about Season 3.
I've always really liked non-sequential storytelling and I'm a huge fan of the idea as a premise for a TV show, but the implicit requirement of telling a story that way is that you have to have a reason for everything. If this is what the story was always building up to, the last 5 or 6 seasons make no contextual sense to be part of the story, and actively interfered with it eliciting the right response.
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They killed off Tracey. She was hyped up for 8 seasons, she delivered a performance that rivaled the hype, then they kill her off. She was the most likable character on the show by miles.
They said they were never going to finish the pineapple story because no one actually knows about the pineapple, the only person that was there for the pineapple was Ted and he was too drunk to remember.
The declining quality of the show in seasons 8 and 9 should have been a huge red flag that they wouldnt do this well.
The ending was so ridiculously stupid. For seven seasons the audience has been getting the idea that robin and Ted are not meant to be together. Robin ended up with Barney, Broke up with Barney, was approached by Ted, Robin said she didn't like Ted that way anymore, and since season 5, Robin getting married to Barney has been a central theme of the series.
Mind you season 5 to season 9 is FOUR YEARS.
Then in the final episode, after FOUR YEARS of buildup, you divorce Barney and Robin, Kill off Tracey--the mother and the point of the whole show, HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER, and get Ted back together with Robin after 7 years of putting Ted off.
You CANNOT do this. The story writing is complete crap. The incongruity is astounding and shocking. When the audience waits nine years for the mother, you cant after NINE years get her together with Ted only to kill her off several episodes later. Likewise, when Robin is on and off with Barney and their marriage is a central theme of the series, you can't just divorce them in one ep and get her back together with Ted in the final one episode.
The problem was not the ending. The ending was very obviously what they intended to do all along. Ted said it himself. He didn't have a Top 5. He had a Top 1, and it was Robin. Yes, he ultimately moved on, and he loved Tracy. But ending up with Robin long after Tracy died is completely natural. And Tracy dying was not at all surprising. There were many moments of foreshadowing leading up to this, the most obvious being the scene a few episodes prior when future Tracy/Ted are sitting at the Farhampton Inn reminscing. Barney and Robin divorcing also should not have surprised anyone. Barney was never marriage material.
The problem was Season 9 in and of itself. The season was just generally awful. The wedding was in EVERY episode. The finale should have been the story of the whole season, but spread out over 22 episodes, instead of 40 minutes. The wedding should have taken approx. 3 episodes. We should have had time to see Tracy and Ted together between 2014-2030. We should have had more time with Barney and Robin to really see the differences between them and understand why they needed to be divorced. They certainly managed to spend enough time on the Lily + Marshal sidestory, there is no reason that they couldn't have had the whole season be just mini-stories for each group and clever ways to tie them together.
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I would have like to see more of Ted and his baby mama dating and all that but that's another thing I can't really be angry about. After all, the show is "How I MET Your Mother", not "How I DATED Your Mother".
The alternate ending on YouTube was perfect. Normally I'd have trouble accepting alternate endings in the face of the original, but the original ending is just so out there and wrong for the tone of the story that it's surprisingly easy this time. It's like if Law and Order or some other real-world, serious show ended with some crazy alien invasion, you'd be like "clearly that's just dumb and doesn't fit at all, I'm just going to believe they all retired or something."
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That alternate ending is only 'perfect' if you just ignore the repeated instances throughout the series where they drop hints that the mother isn't going to be around in the end. I'm not saying it is an inherently bad ending. Of course it's not. That scene at the train station is a beautiful moment. I'm saying that they had a particular ending in mind, and made multiple references throughout the series to this end, and the ending that you guys like is not consistent with that. I would have been furious if they just left that hanging. I would also argue that said ending makes Barney/Robin's divorce even less meaningful. At least this way, in the end, Robin and Ted end up together.
But I really did like the ending. Ted struggled with love for so long(including getting left at the altar etc), but in the end, he got to be with BOTH loves of his life.
There's nothing inherently wrong with the ending. Every that happened makes sense given the characters and what we've been told thus far.
-Barney changed because he loved Robin. Now that they are divorced, it does make sense that he'll fall back to his old ways.
-Ted and Robin had a pact that they'll get together if they're single at 50 or something.
The issue is that everything in the last couple of seasons seemed to be leading up to a completely different ending. While it may make sense, it is incredibly unsatisfying, as virtually everything that happened in the last 2-3 seasons goes "poof". It is no longer relevant. Things and characters in the much earlier seasons make sense, but not the last 2-3 seasons.
I know that the show writers had the ending in mind since season 2, when they got the kids filmed. From what I've read, the show writers never quite expected for the show to go this long, and so they had to... extend things quite a bit.
That's fine. But when that happens, then you should alter your end-game plans. Instead of showing a whole bunch of things that become virtually meaningless 10 minutes into the finale.
You cannot show the ending with the assumption that there has been only 4-5 seasons when the show has gone on for 9.
Sure that's fine. I know they did it so that the actors portraying the kids would look young at the finale (when they are now adults). Understandable.
However, if you weigh that against the fact that Ted spent several seasons getting over Robin just to have 2 minutes getting back with her in the end is very frustrating. If push comes to shove, I would've killed off Tracey but not have Ted get back with Robin. I love Tracey and I think she was seriously the best character in the show (even if she was around for a season) and complimented Ted perfectly.
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Please stop hijacking my reply box.
He didn't want to waste hours of their time as an attempt to entertain them, it was important to him that they understood what he was feeling and what he went through to get where he is now.
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I've always really liked non-sequential storytelling and I'm a huge fan of the idea as a premise for a TV show, but the implicit requirement of telling a story that way is that you have to have a reason for everything. If this is what the story was always building up to, the last 5 or 6 seasons make no contextual sense to be part of the story, and actively interfered with it eliciting the right response.