I disagree with this completely. People should support their team in the good times and the bad, that's what it means to be a fan. I think band wagon jumpers are a million times worse than people supporting a losing team.
You have a point here, but it only goes so far. There are far too many bandwagon jumpers out there that switch from team to team based on who won what championship.
I'm not speaking for green goblin here, but I get the feeling this is what he meant more than fans being loyal. And if that is the case, I agree. My hate for the Red Sox comes from all the bandwagon jumpers.
Don't know many Raiders fans, but are they really that arrogant? I mean, the franchise has been putrid for about 20 years and they have 1 championship? There was that early 90's phase where raiders jackets and such were everywhere due to the influence of Rap videos/Compton Rap groups, but that was just a fashion trend.
I live in the bay area so maybe that adds a bias to my view. Living here you see Raider fans all the time who take particular joy in mocking any team that isn't the Raiders regardless of how good the other team is or how bad the Raiders are. The fact that, as you pointed out, they haven't been good in like forever only makes it more annoying. Raiders fans talk a big game and refuse to accept that their team never backs them up.
Of course I'm a 49er fan so that may have something to do with it.
I disagree with this completely. People should support their team in the good times and the bad, that's what it means to be a fan. I think band wagon jumpers are a million times worse than people supporting a losing team.
I don't support bandwagon fans any more than you do, or hate on any fan that supports a losing team, but I think what matters is the attitude they take not only towards their favorite team but also to other teams and their fans. Its one thing to support a losing team while respecting your rivals, its quite another to be a rude arrogant fool about it.
You hate the Detroit lions? How? Isn't that pretty much like hating the kid with Downs Syndrome?
No, that'd be Tampa, or Jacksonville.
I'm fairly certain its a popular sentiment. Detroit has a tendency to carry a dirty reputation, tons of off the field issues and seems to do nothing but pull in low character players. I'm a Chicagoan and I like the Packers more than Detroit.
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I don't support bandwagon fans any more than you do, or hate on any fan that supports a losing team, but I think what matters is the attitude they take not only towards their favorite team but also to other teams and their fans. Its one thing to support a losing team while respecting your rivals, its quite another to be a rude arrogant fool about it.
Yeah I get what you're saying. I never had any feelings one way or another towards the New England Patriots but then they started playing well and winning a lot and as a result their fans became increasingly obnoxious. It really turned me off from the team. Same for the Red Sox. I was actually a sox fan when I was a kid but that has certainly changed in recent years. People from the New England area have a tendency to be uber douchey about sports (at least the ones I've met anyway). Now I find myself getting a happy feeling when those teams lose.
People from the New England area have a tendency to be uber douchey about sports (at least the ones I've met anyway).
This is true. Case in point, NE fans railed against the push penalty in the Jets game (going so far as to say the rule was edited after the game and there was a conspiracy to cover it up), but defended the batted ball penalty in the Dolphins game to the death. Regardless of what the correct calls in those plays were (I'm of the opinion the correct call was made in both cases), NE fans felt...entitled to a win in both cases. As though the calls had to go their way as a matter of fact. Ditto with the obstruction call that went against the Sox (also probably the right call). Winning games and winning championships can do that to a fanbase.
I take a small of solace in the fact that I'll still be a NE fan when the Kraft/Belichick/Brady era is over and the Pats are an average or even bad team again. Because, yeah, New England fans have been "uber douchey" of late.
This is true. Case in point, NE fans railed against the push penalty in the Jets game (going so far as to say the rule was edited after the game and there was a conspiracy to cover it up), but defended the batted ball penalty in the Dolphins game to the death. Regardless of what the correct calls in those plays were (I'm of the opinion the correct call was made in both cases), NE fans felt...entitled to a win in both cases. As though the calls had to go their way as a matter of fact. Ditto with the obstruction call that went against the Sox (also probably the right call). Winning games and winning championships can do that to a fanbase.
I take a small of solace in the fact that I'll still be a NE fan when the Kraft/Belichick/Brady era is over and the Pats are an average or even bad team again. Because, yeah, New England fans have been "uber douchey" of late.
LOL, remember sports is entertainment not life and death and to be a fan of a team means you want to things to go well for your team and are upset when they don't. This is the case for anyone who is a fan of sports, not just New England fans. Because a fan or two you know came up to you and acted like an idiot doesn't suddenly mean our fanbase is all corrupted by alot of recent winning.
In this specific scenario, a call at the end of a game to literally change the outcome of a game is light years different from the batting of ball keeping the ball with the Patriots who were already up in the game, with more time left in the game for the outcome to be decided where the Dolphins wouldn't have gotten the ball directly from the play anyway. Pats fans weren't upset that there was a conspiracy going on they were upset because the refs made a controversal call on essentially the last play of the game. Any fan of any sport of any team would call BS on that. There's unspoken rule in sports about refs letting players decide the game late. Not to mention the same acts were being made by both teams all game (proven by NFL video sent to all 32 teams) and was decided to be made as a call at that moment.
Being jealous of a city or teams winning is natural unfortunately (I rooted against the Cowboys in the 90s for example). It does not mean that the fans are all now jerks in general. For every one idiot New England sports fan you meet there are 4 or 5 pleasant, knowledgable, and level-minded fan. This is also the case for every other fanbase, but somehow because we have won alot recently (as Boston fans) our idiots are magnified and added to that jealousy I spoke of at the beginning of this paragraph, the Boston fanbase gets raked over the coals.
Pretty much every Boston-based franchise. They just seem to get the right calls at the right time and get away with everything, cite Superbowl XLIX in the 3rd quarter, blatant trip (Pass interference) 3rd and 10, forced turnover, cue scripted comeback and inevitable Robert Craft/Roger Godell bff moment...
Pretty much every Boston-based franchise. They just seem to get the right calls at the right time and get away with everything, cite Superbowl XLIX in the 3rd quarter, blatant trip (Pass interference) 3rd and 10, forced turnover, cue scripted comeback and inevitable Robert Craft/Roger Godell bff moment...
The worst thing about Boston is how their hype machine managed to make the entire country feel sorry for them over the Red Sox. Poor widdle BoSox, all victims of the Babe curse. Get everyone behind them every year because BREAK THE CURSE! DESTROY THE EVIL YANKEE EMPIRE!
Then 2004 happened, and the mask fell off, and we found out that New Yorkers have NOTHING on M********s when it comes to being intolerable.
If we all knew then what we knew now, we'd have wanted that stupid Curse to last a millennium.
Also, as a fellow Seahawks fan (judging by your avatar), I feel the pain on the Super Bowl. Screw the Cheatriots, and give the Beast the ******* ball. Screw the Stealers. And above all else...
For me it would be the Jets & Giants (NFL). Why? I live in NJ, and they call themselves (blatantly) "The NY Giants/Jets. To me it's a slap in the face.
For the MLB, it is the Red Sox/Mets (Yankee fan here) Just wondering how the Yankees "bought" their Championships in the 90's? Those teams, for the most part were from the farm system/trades. Sure we paid Jeter, Rivera, etc handsomely but they weren't "bought" in free agency. That was all homegrown talent. Thank You Gene Michael & Buck Showalter.
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I'm a Bruins, Patriots, and Red Sox fan. Statistically speaking, there is a 97% chance that we are going to have a disagreement.
But despite being a Boston sports team guy, I don't actually hate your team. (Unless it's the Montreal Canadiens. It's- look, I kinda have to. It's complicated.)
I just hate your team's fanbase. I have never heard so much vitriol from people as I have when I tell them I'm a Boston sports fan.
You have a point here, but it only goes so far. There are far too many bandwagon jumpers out there that switch from team to team based on who won what championship.
I'm not speaking for green goblin here, but I get the feeling this is what he meant more than fans being loyal. And if that is the case, I agree. My hate for the Red Sox comes from all the bandwagon jumpers.
I live in the bay area so maybe that adds a bias to my view. Living here you see Raider fans all the time who take particular joy in mocking any team that isn't the Raiders regardless of how good the other team is or how bad the Raiders are. The fact that, as you pointed out, they haven't been good in like forever only makes it more annoying. Raiders fans talk a big game and refuse to accept that their team never backs them up.
Of course I'm a 49er fan so that may have something to do with it.
I don't support bandwagon fans any more than you do, or hate on any fan that supports a losing team, but I think what matters is the attitude they take not only towards their favorite team but also to other teams and their fans. Its one thing to support a losing team while respecting your rivals, its quite another to be a rude arrogant fool about it.
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You hate the Detroit lions? How? Isn't that pretty much like hating the kid with Downs Syndrome?
No, that'd be Tampa, or Jacksonville.
I'm fairly certain its a popular sentiment. Detroit has a tendency to carry a dirty reputation, tons of off the field issues and seems to do nothing but pull in low character players. I'm a Chicagoan and I like the Packers more than Detroit.
Yeah I get what you're saying. I never had any feelings one way or another towards the New England Patriots but then they started playing well and winning a lot and as a result their fans became increasingly obnoxious. It really turned me off from the team. Same for the Red Sox. I was actually a sox fan when I was a kid but that has certainly changed in recent years. People from the New England area have a tendency to be uber douchey about sports (at least the ones I've met anyway). Now I find myself getting a happy feeling when those teams lose.
This is true. Case in point, NE fans railed against the push penalty in the Jets game (going so far as to say the rule was edited after the game and there was a conspiracy to cover it up), but defended the batted ball penalty in the Dolphins game to the death. Regardless of what the correct calls in those plays were (I'm of the opinion the correct call was made in both cases), NE fans felt...entitled to a win in both cases. As though the calls had to go their way as a matter of fact. Ditto with the obstruction call that went against the Sox (also probably the right call). Winning games and winning championships can do that to a fanbase.
I take a small of solace in the fact that I'll still be a NE fan when the Kraft/Belichick/Brady era is over and the Pats are an average or even bad team again. Because, yeah, New England fans have been "uber douchey" of late.
LOL, remember sports is entertainment not life and death and to be a fan of a team means you want to things to go well for your team and are upset when they don't. This is the case for anyone who is a fan of sports, not just New England fans. Because a fan or two you know came up to you and acted like an idiot doesn't suddenly mean our fanbase is all corrupted by alot of recent winning.
In this specific scenario, a call at the end of a game to literally change the outcome of a game is light years different from the batting of ball keeping the ball with the Patriots who were already up in the game, with more time left in the game for the outcome to be decided where the Dolphins wouldn't have gotten the ball directly from the play anyway. Pats fans weren't upset that there was a conspiracy going on they were upset because the refs made a controversal call on essentially the last play of the game. Any fan of any sport of any team would call BS on that. There's unspoken rule in sports about refs letting players decide the game late. Not to mention the same acts were being made by both teams all game (proven by NFL video sent to all 32 teams) and was decided to be made as a call at that moment.
Being jealous of a city or teams winning is natural unfortunately (I rooted against the Cowboys in the 90s for example). It does not mean that the fans are all now jerks in general. For every one idiot New England sports fan you meet there are 4 or 5 pleasant, knowledgable, and level-minded fan. This is also the case for every other fanbase, but somehow because we have won alot recently (as Boston fans) our idiots are magnified and added to that jealousy I spoke of at the beginning of this paragraph, the Boston fanbase gets raked over the coals.
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The worst thing about Boston is how their hype machine managed to make the entire country feel sorry for them over the Red Sox. Poor widdle BoSox, all victims of the Babe curse. Get everyone behind them every year because BREAK THE CURSE! DESTROY THE EVIL YANKEE EMPIRE!
Then 2004 happened, and the mask fell off, and we found out that New Yorkers have NOTHING on M********s when it comes to being intolerable.
If we all knew then what we knew now, we'd have wanted that stupid Curse to last a millennium.
Also, as a fellow Seahawks fan (judging by your avatar), I feel the pain on the Super Bowl. Screw the Cheatriots, and give the Beast the ******* ball. Screw the Stealers. And above all else...
**** THE NINERS.
For the MLB, it is the Red Sox/Mets (Yankee fan here) Just wondering how the Yankees "bought" their Championships in the 90's? Those teams, for the most part were from the farm system/trades. Sure we paid Jeter, Rivera, etc handsomely but they weren't "bought" in free agency. That was all homegrown talent. Thank You Gene Michael & Buck Showalter.
The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realize it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it....
I'm a Bruins, Patriots, and Red Sox fan. Statistically speaking, there is a 97% chance that we are going to have a disagreement.
But despite being a Boston sports team guy, I don't actually hate your team. (Unless it's the Montreal Canadiens. It's- look, I kinda have to. It's complicated.)
I just hate your team's fanbase. I have never heard so much vitriol from people as I have when I tell them I'm a Boston sports fan.