Who cares? There has been a multitude of characters who have wielded the power of Thor over the years, I fail to see why people are making a big deal out of it being a woman.
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I think the issue here is that the female character is 'Thor', despite Thor actually continuing in a different capacity with an awesome axe. There have been other characters who've taken Thor's power, but haven't 'become' Thor. The ones who actually 'became' Thor (and not just wielded his power) usually had the name because they took Thor's place in the Norse Pantheon, including all applicable prophecies.
“This is not She-Thor. This is not Lady Thor. This is not Thorita. This is THOR. This is the THOR of the Marvel Universe. But it’s unlike any Thor we’ve ever seen before.”
This is self-contradictory and dumb. If she's unlike any Thor we've ever seen before, she's not Thor. This move says something pretty messed up about individuality and identity. Characters aren't supposed to be interchangeable like that; a person is more than just a hammer, a power set, and a title. That's actually kind of the whole point of the classic "Thor is unworthy and has to prove himself again" story: when he loses his hammer in, for example, the movie, the plot still follows him, because he's still the person he was and the guy we the audience have been asked to invest ourselves in. We're not waiting around to see who else will get the hammer; we're rooting for the guy we know to get the hammer back.
So chalk me up in the "annoyed by gimmick" column. We all know that the big guy is going to reclaim the mantle in a year or two, anyway.
And why is Marvel doing this? They have a very well-received new female superhero with their relaunch of the Ms. Marvel title. The contrast between the richness of that story and the cheapness of "Thor's a woman now!" is kind of staggering.
Speaking of Ms. Marvel, would it be crazy to think the new Thor is Carol Danvers? She would be exactly the kind of woman that would be "worthy" to have Thor's power.
“This is not She-Thor. This is not Lady Thor. This is not Thorita. This is THOR. This is the THOR of the Marvel Universe. But it’s unlike any Thor we’ve ever seen before.”
This is self-contradictory and dumb. If she's unlike any Thor we've ever seen before, she's not Thor. This move says something pretty messed up about individuality and identity. Characters aren't supposed to be interchangeable like that; a person is more than just a hammer, a power set, and a title. That's actually kind of the whole point of the classic "Thor is unworthy and has to prove himself again" story: when he loses his hammer in, for example, the movie, the plot still follows him, because he's still the person he was and the guy we the audience have been asked to invest ourselves in. We're not waiting around to see who else will get the hammer; we're rooting for the guy we know to get the hammer back.
So chalk me up in the "annoyed by gimmick" column. We all know that the big guy is going to reclaim the mantle in a year or two, anyway.
And why is Marvel doing this? They have a very well-received new female superhero with their relaunch of the Ms. Marvel title. The contrast between the richness of that story and the cheapness of "Thor's a woman now!" is kind of staggering.
Completely agree. It's gimmicky and nonsensical. "This is THOR"? What does that even mean? What about the old Thor, what happened to him? Who is he now? How do Odin and Loki feel about their son/sibling being replaced by a stranger? Not to mention that this is not the first female to wield Mjolnir, that would be Storm. Yes, she became the "Goddess of Thunder", no she did not *become Thor*.
Speaking of Ms. Marvel, would it be crazy to think the new Thor is Carol Danvers? She would be exactly the kind of woman that would be "worthy" to have Thor's power.
I think there is something in the THOR ongoing dealing with Thor's future daughters. It'll probably be one of them.
“This is not She-Thor. This is not Lady Thor. This is not Thorita. This is THOR. This is the THOR of the Marvel Universe. But it’s unlike any Thor we’ve ever seen before.”
This is self-contradictory and dumb. If she's unlike any Thor we've ever seen before, she's not Thor. This move says something pretty messed up about individuality and identity. Characters aren't supposed to be interchangeable like that; a person is more than just a hammer, a power set, and a title. That's actually kind of the whole point of the classic "Thor is unworthy and has to prove himself again" story: when he loses his hammer in, for example, the movie, the plot still follows him, because he's still the person he was and the guy we the audience have been asked to invest ourselves in. We're not waiting around to see who else will get the hammer; we're rooting for the guy we know to get the hammer back.
So chalk me up in the "annoyed by gimmick" column. We all know that the big guy is going to reclaim the mantle in a year or two, anyway.
And why is Marvel doing this? They have a very well-received new female superhero with their relaunch of the Ms. Marvel title. The contrast between the richness of that story and the cheapness of "Thor's a woman now!" is kind of staggering.
Completely agree. It's gimmicky and nonsensical. "This is THOR"? What does that even mean? What about the old Thor, what happened to him? Who is he now? How do Odin and Loki feel about their son/sibling being replaced by a stranger? Not to mention that this is not the first female to wield Mjolnir, that would be Storm. Yes, she became the "Goddess of Thunder", no she did not *become Thor*.
To be fair, they've made two other male characters 'Thor'. Not just his powers, but actually made them the Thor of the Marvel Universe for a time. I don't necessarily agree with the decision, but I'm willing to give it a chance going forward before I pass judgment.
Long time reader of Thor. Through the good, bad and terrible. Although I don't mind that a lady has managed to gain Mjolnir, I highly question that the person they have wielding it should have qualified as worthy. I would really like to know what Marvel things the "real" Nick Fury whispered into Thor's ear that made Thor doubt his own worthiness. What makes that even worse, is that it's Mjolnir that determines if the person is worthy, it shouldn't have anything to do with the person's self perception. I like the story line with the power struggle between Odin and Freya and the events going on between the Council and Malaketh. But the way Marvel has been splitting important parts of the story line into other series makes me scream with frustration.
Oh, bit of a side note, but I loved the entire Journey into Mystery stories with Loki and the Triumvirate (Freya/Gaea/Idunn).
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― Anthony Bourdain, Kitchen Confidential
I will always firmly stand by the belief that Magic is a game first and a collectable second.
I think the issue here is that the female character is 'Thor', despite Thor actually continuing in a different capacity with an awesome axe. There have been other characters who've taken Thor's power, but haven't 'become' Thor. The ones who actually 'became' Thor (and not just wielded his power) usually had the name because they took Thor's place in the Norse Pantheon, including all applicable prophecies.
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[Primer] Krenko | Azor | Kess | Zacama | Kumena | Sram | The Ur-Dragon | Edgar Markov | Daretti | Marath
This is self-contradictory and dumb. If she's unlike any Thor we've ever seen before, she's not Thor. This move says something pretty messed up about individuality and identity. Characters aren't supposed to be interchangeable like that; a person is more than just a hammer, a power set, and a title. That's actually kind of the whole point of the classic "Thor is unworthy and has to prove himself again" story: when he loses his hammer in, for example, the movie, the plot still follows him, because he's still the person he was and the guy we the audience have been asked to invest ourselves in. We're not waiting around to see who else will get the hammer; we're rooting for the guy we know to get the hammer back.
So chalk me up in the "annoyed by gimmick" column. We all know that the big guy is going to reclaim the mantle in a year or two, anyway.
And why is Marvel doing this? They have a very well-received new female superhero with their relaunch of the Ms. Marvel title. The contrast between the richness of that story and the cheapness of "Thor's a woman now!" is kind of staggering.
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Completely agree. It's gimmicky and nonsensical. "This is THOR"? What does that even mean? What about the old Thor, what happened to him? Who is he now? How do Odin and Loki feel about their son/sibling being replaced by a stranger? Not to mention that this is not the first female to wield Mjolnir, that would be Storm. Yes, she became the "Goddess of Thunder", no she did not *become Thor*.
I think there is something in the THOR ongoing dealing with Thor's future daughters. It'll probably be one of them.
To be fair, they've made two other male characters 'Thor'. Not just his powers, but actually made them the Thor of the Marvel Universe for a time. I don't necessarily agree with the decision, but I'm willing to give it a chance going forward before I pass judgment.
TerribleBad at Magic since 1998.A Vorthos Guide to Magic Story | Twitter | Tumblr
[Primer] Krenko | Azor | Kess | Zacama | Kumena | Sram | The Ur-Dragon | Edgar Markov | Daretti | Marath
Oh, bit of a side note, but I loved the entire Journey into Mystery stories with Loki and the Triumvirate (Freya/Gaea/Idunn).