I just hope it turns out better than the Fantastic Four. It's interesting that Fox is taking a risk on this one being rated R.
It would be very surprising if it didn't.
At least one superiority this movie has is that Ryan Reynolds seems entirely an appropriate casting choice for Deadpool.
Reynolds pushed for the movie for years. Remembering back to the Wolverine movie, he did well with the character. Its his sort of character, but the bad, bad ending to Wolverine really messed up.
Wolverine Origins would have been best using some of the comic book material and just focused on Wolverine vs Sabertooth with the Weapons X program and splitting the movie into two parts to cover long time periods.
Fox didn't want to do it, until Reynolds got with a newbie director and they went to make it with a small budget. With all things considered, if it works we get sequels if it flops we get this one. I find it to be worth jaunt, as the character when handled properly places people into a guilty pleasure towards something that is weird and frankly totally American.
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Moviebob's review hits the nail on the head. Basically, a good film that doesn't quite aim for excellent, but has shades of the potential to be there had it really wanted to.
The movie is a surprise on many levels, not just the fact that it got made. The film actually shows a great deal of restraint, giving us just enough Deadpool antics without collapsing into chaos. The film is really a love story between Wade Wilson and Vanessa Carlyle, and the romance between the two is perhaps the most genuine and heartfelt I've felt in any superhero movie to date. For all of its trappings of anarchic, snarky humor and poking fun at traditional heroes, Deadpool plays its moments of heart and legit heroism as well or better than any superhero film I've seen in recent memory, and actually could have been groundbreaking and truly excellent had this been its purpose. And frankly, it's no where near as over-the-top as I'd thought it would be. It works, there's enough violence, but it never veers toward gratuitous, which is interesting as I'd expected the movie to go balls-to-the-wall with violence.
There's a great deal of self-deprecating humor about the film's budget, but Deadpool certainly towers over Avengers 2 and Iron Man 3. And Star Wars Episode 7, for that matter. It's fun, it's actually a good film, there's plenty of laughs, and contrary to what the trailers depict, the fights actually look awesome.
So I expected a movie that would fall apart, and what I got was a movie that was quite good. One I look forward to watching again.
Made me laugh quite a lot, from start to end. Castings are 10/10.
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It was a great film. Spent two days thinking about it and the movie still holds up, so that means it's gotta be good. I thought Deadpool would be annoying and his jokes would get lame after 10 minutes, but I was surprised that neither assumption proved correct.
The best part about the movie to me was how they kept splicing up the origin parts with "flash-forwards" to the big fight going on. This kept the pacing high and ensured the dramatic moments didn't overpower the start. It was constantly fresh and clever.
Why do so many people leave before the end of the credits though?
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Wow almost two years later I come back to my own thread, that's something. Deadpool's made a ton of money so far - 45,000,000 Friday night makes it the best February opening, best R-rated film opening, best X-Men film opening and honestly just one of the best movie openings one could have (literally doubling the third Hobbit movie's opening night) so that's really cool news. DP being a hard R-rated film and actually raking in this kinda cash (expected 260 million dollar four day weekend, internationally) means a lot of R-rated projects and concepts are maybe gonna have a chance; as bizzare as it is, Deadpool cashing in might be the best news so far in regards to us getting a Mad Max: Fury Road sequel..
It was a great film. Spent two days thinking about it and the movie still holds up, so that means it's gotta be good. I thought Deadpool would be annoying and his jokes would get lame after 10 minutes, but I was surprised that neither assumption proved correct.
Deadpool cashing in might be the best news so far in regards to us getting a Mad Max: Fury Road sequel..
Not that I have anything against Deadpool doing well, but a Fury Road sequel is all but a certainty either way.
It's actually zero percent certain - I manage a video store and study film economics, MMFR made nowhere near enough at the box office to establish proof of concept and Warner Bros. is pretty notorious for just chasing the cash wherever they think they smell it. With them trying to kick off Justice League and Suicide Squad AND catch up with Marvel-Disney, an R-rated action movie with a production cycle as long as MMFR and a director who's known for ignoring deadlines that was a financial failure? I know the Oscar nods help and it definitely was the best movie of 2015 but the cash just wasn't there.
I dunno what you're talking about. Tom Hardy signed on for Fury Road and any other sequels that arise. The only obstacle a Fury Road sequel faces is director George Miller himself, who wants to do other projects right now, and there's no way WB would let someone else direct a Mad Max movie.
On topic: I didn't mention my one problem with Deadpool. While it was making fun of the superhero movie genre, it was still just a typical superhero movie. You can't parody while being the thing you're parodying. That's what stops this from being an amazing film, really. Still pretty great though.
You absolutely can. Galaxy Quest is the greatest parody movie of all time, and it's unabashedly the thing it's parodying.
Never seen it. Don't doubt you.
Deadpool falls short by parodying the generic superhero movies, while itself still being a generic superhero movie with a really safe ending. The film I feel that will truly defy the conventions of the genre thus far is Batman v Superman.
And again, I want nobody to think this means I think the film is bad, average or above average. It's a great effing movie, bros. Watch it. Give Ryan Reynolds your money and let Tim Miller get more work.
On topic: I didn't mention my one problem with Deadpool. While it was making fun of the superhero movie genre, it was still just a typical superhero movie. You can't parody while being the thing you're parodying.
What? No, a parody has to be the thing it's parodying. That's the whole point of parody.
On topic: I didn't mention my one problem with Deadpool. While it was making fun of the superhero movie genre, it was still just a typical superhero movie. You can't parody while being the thing you're parodying.
What? No, a parody has to be the thing it's parodying. That's the whole point of parody.
You're misunderstanding what I said. The point being made is Deadpool acts like it's fresh and going against the mainstream conventions of the genre, but it actually isn't. It brings nothing new to the table, and doesn't try to meet its potential to be more.
On topic: I didn't mention my one problem with Deadpool. While it was making fun of the superhero movie genre, it was still just a typical superhero movie. You can't parody while being the thing you're parodying.
What? No, a parody has to be the thing it's parodying. That's the whole point of parody.
You're misunderstanding what I said. The point being made is Deadpool acts like it's fresh and going against the mainstream conventions of the genre, but it actually isn't. It brings nothing new to the table, and doesn't try to meet its potential to be more.
I think the issue here is that you're viewing it as a failed parody, but it wasn't really a parody. It is a super hero movie that happens to contain a character who pokes fun at the genre a bit. Hell, I don't even think the film ever promised a fresh take on the genre. But to say it didn't go against the mainstream is pretty wrong. Yes, we've seen rated R super hero movies before, but back in the days of Blade super hero movies were very different (and generally lower quality). It brings real comedy moments to the table, something we normally only see glimpses of in Whedon's overdone quip type humor or in a very generic "haha Wolverine gave Cyclops the finger with his claws" way. It brought violence to a sub-genre of film that is normally painfully forced into a kid-friendly frame, not unlike Daredevil and Jessica Jones (which are anything but more of the same).
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Just watched the movie. I never laughed so much before at a movie theater before in my life. The meta jokes were spot on as was Ryan Reynolds, who was born for this part.
My personal favorite jokes
Shot at the x-men movies continuity and the two actors playing prof X
Shot at DP's budget and how they couldn't afford more x-men
Initial credit scenes that basically mocks Reynolds' past failures and mocking the formulaic approach to most blockbuster movies.
Two generic jokes that just so happen to be inside jokes within my friend group that watched the movie, the people around were definitely confused why we were laughing so hard
I think the issue here is that you're viewing it as a failed parody, but it wasn't really a parody. It is a super hero movie that happens to contain a character who pokes fun at the genre a bit.
Nah. I say exactly what I'm thinking.
Let me give you a comparable example. Let's say someone wants to make fun of the fact that women are oversexualized in comic books... so they create a comic book of nothing but oversexualized women doing oversexualized women stuff. At what point does it stop being a satire and starts being just the same overindulgence it's meant to protest?
That's Deadpool to me. It's a really good movie, but stops itself from being a great movie because it's just a really generic superhero/action movie plot once you take away the references.
Also, it DID promise to be something unique and different. "Not your typical superhero story," except it is.
Just watched the movie. I never laughed so much before at a movie theater before in my life.
I think the genius of Deadpool's comedy is there's like 3 jokes every minute, so even if some fall flat, you're bound to find enough of them hilarious for the movie to be hilarious.
Personally, only 3 jokes fell flat for me. 3 out of like a bajillion.
Let me give you a comparable example. Let's say someone wants to make fun of the fact that women are oversexualized in comic books... so they create a comic book of nothing but oversexualized women doing oversexualized women stuff. At what point does it stop being a satire and starts being just the same overindulgence it's meant to protest?
That's Deadpool to me. It's a really good movie, but stops itself from being a great movie because it's just a really generic superhero/action movie plot once you take away the references.
But that's the thing: Deadpool isn't intended to be a satire or deconstruction or critical look or whatever on superhero movies.
It's an action-comedy around a guy that knows he's in a superhero movie, and there's comedy at how completely wrong he is for the role of main character in such a movie, especially when contrasted with Colossus, a legit superhero and, well, man of steel.
But it's not a satire. It didn't try to be. In fact, Deadpool even says in the beginning that this was a superhero movie and commented on the fact that they would start with his origin story.
To me, it's analogous to cartoons in the 90s. There was a lot of self-referential humor and fourth-wall breaking, in which the cartoon characters knew they were cartoons and would comment on the fact, but these cartoons weren't parodies of cartoons, nor were they satire. They were just self-referential.
Also, it DID promise to be something unique and different. "Not your typical superhero story," except it is.
It's not your typical superhero story because DEADPOOL is in it.
And really, I'm very glad they didn't go the satire route. There's just too much genuine glee in this film to make it some grand treatise on superhero movies. That would have taken away from the film.
I think the genius of Deadpool's comedy is there's like 3 jokes every minute, so even if some fall flat, you're bound to find enough of them hilarious for the movie to be hilarious.
Reynolds pushed for the movie for years. Remembering back to the Wolverine movie, he did well with the character. Its his sort of character, but the bad, bad ending to Wolverine really messed up.
Wolverine Origins would have been best using some of the comic book material and just focused on Wolverine vs Sabertooth with the Weapons X program and splitting the movie into two parts to cover long time periods.
Fox didn't want to do it, until Reynolds got with a newbie director and they went to make it with a small budget. With all things considered, if it works we get sequels if it flops we get this one. I find it to be worth jaunt, as the character when handled properly places people into a guilty pleasure towards something that is weird and frankly totally American.
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Moviebob's review hits the nail on the head. Basically, a good film that doesn't quite aim for excellent, but has shades of the potential to be there had it really wanted to.
The movie is a surprise on many levels, not just the fact that it got made. The film actually shows a great deal of restraint, giving us just enough Deadpool antics without collapsing into chaos. The film is really a love story between Wade Wilson and Vanessa Carlyle, and the romance between the two is perhaps the most genuine and heartfelt I've felt in any superhero movie to date. For all of its trappings of anarchic, snarky humor and poking fun at traditional heroes, Deadpool plays its moments of heart and legit heroism as well or better than any superhero film I've seen in recent memory, and actually could have been groundbreaking and truly excellent had this been its purpose. And frankly, it's no where near as over-the-top as I'd thought it would be. It works, there's enough violence, but it never veers toward gratuitous, which is interesting as I'd expected the movie to go balls-to-the-wall with violence.
There's a great deal of self-deprecating humor about the film's budget, but Deadpool certainly towers over Avengers 2 and Iron Man 3. And Star Wars Episode 7, for that matter. It's fun, it's actually a good film, there's plenty of laughs, and contrary to what the trailers depict, the fights actually look awesome.
So I expected a movie that would fall apart, and what I got was a movie that was quite good. One I look forward to watching again.
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Excessively vulgar, extremely obscene, incredibly funny. Worth the watch if you don't mind the nudity.
Strongly recommend watching it.
Eh, the most you saw were tits and asses. Not that bad, and not that many.
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It's actually zero percent certain - I manage a video store and study film economics, MMFR made nowhere near enough at the box office to establish proof of concept and Warner Bros. is pretty notorious for just chasing the cash wherever they think they smell it. With them trying to kick off Justice League and Suicide Squad AND catch up with Marvel-Disney, an R-rated action movie with a production cycle as long as MMFR and a director who's known for ignoring deadlines that was a financial failure? I know the Oscar nods help and it definitely was the best movie of 2015 but the cash just wasn't there.
On topic: I didn't mention my one problem with Deadpool. While it was making fun of the superhero movie genre, it was still just a typical superhero movie. You can't parody while being the thing you're parodying. That's what stops this from being an amazing film, really. Still pretty great though.
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Never seen it. Don't doubt you.
Deadpool falls short by parodying the generic superhero movies, while itself still being a generic superhero movie with a really safe ending. The film I feel that will truly defy the conventions of the genre thus far is Batman v Superman.
And again, I want nobody to think this means I think the film is bad, average or above average. It's a great effing movie, bros. Watch it. Give Ryan Reynolds your money and let Tim Miller get more work.
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You're misunderstanding what I said. The point being made is Deadpool acts like it's fresh and going against the mainstream conventions of the genre, but it actually isn't. It brings nothing new to the table, and doesn't try to meet its potential to be more.
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I think the issue here is that you're viewing it as a failed parody, but it wasn't really a parody. It is a super hero movie that happens to contain a character who pokes fun at the genre a bit. Hell, I don't even think the film ever promised a fresh take on the genre. But to say it didn't go against the mainstream is pretty wrong. Yes, we've seen rated R super hero movies before, but back in the days of Blade super hero movies were very different (and generally lower quality). It brings real comedy moments to the table, something we normally only see glimpses of in Whedon's overdone quip type humor or in a very generic "haha Wolverine gave Cyclops the finger with his claws" way. It brought violence to a sub-genre of film that is normally painfully forced into a kid-friendly frame, not unlike Daredevil and Jessica Jones (which are anything but more of the same).
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Nah. I say exactly what I'm thinking.
Let me give you a comparable example. Let's say someone wants to make fun of the fact that women are oversexualized in comic books... so they create a comic book of nothing but oversexualized women doing oversexualized women stuff. At what point does it stop being a satire and starts being just the same overindulgence it's meant to protest?
That's Deadpool to me. It's a really good movie, but stops itself from being a great movie because it's just a really generic superhero/action movie plot once you take away the references.
Also, it DID promise to be something unique and different. "Not your typical superhero story," except it is.
I think the genius of Deadpool's comedy is there's like 3 jokes every minute, so even if some fall flat, you're bound to find enough of them hilarious for the movie to be hilarious.
Personally, only 3 jokes fell flat for me. 3 out of like a bajillion.
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It's an action-comedy around a guy that knows he's in a superhero movie, and there's comedy at how completely wrong he is for the role of main character in such a movie, especially when contrasted with Colossus, a legit superhero and, well, man of steel.
But it's not a satire. It didn't try to be. In fact, Deadpool even says in the beginning that this was a superhero movie and commented on the fact that they would start with his origin story.
To me, it's analogous to cartoons in the 90s. There was a lot of self-referential humor and fourth-wall breaking, in which the cartoon characters knew they were cartoons and would comment on the fact, but these cartoons weren't parodies of cartoons, nor were they satire. They were just self-referential.
It's not your typical superhero story because DEADPOOL is in it.
And really, I'm very glad they didn't go the satire route. There's just too much genuine glee in this film to make it some grand treatise on superhero movies. That would have taken away from the film.
Agreed.