I will let someone better than me dissect this post, but one thing I failed to read in that post was what does Trump do that's good?
In one of the last debates, he pretty much admitted the healthcare plan he is talking about for fixing ACA is pretty much non-existent. His method for stopping illegal immigration is to build a giant ******* wall (I don't think it's going to work the way he wants it to). The only good thing I can think about him is compared to the other candidates on the right, he is much more likely to work with a Congress on the other side of the party line.
My reaction to this new and innovative plan.
1. Repeal Obamacare - lol, this is going to be new!
2. Healthcare Insurance across state lines. - This doesn't work because each state has a lot of different requirements for insurance. You can't buy a policy being sold in another state and have it be up to the local state's regulations. This plan is pretty nonsensical, anyways. Any insurance company can open a branch in any state already. It's why you can find blue cross in every state. What this really means is that Trump wants to remove any safeties or protections for consumers that a state grants its citizens so that everyone has access to the worst coverage. Which, may be cheaper, but also likely doesn't pay for anything. Also, this has been part of every Republican "plan" since Obamacare passed. When people leave their local insurance plans for cheaper ones that look good on paper, but are actually scams then the good plans will eventually cease to exist because there won't be enough money in them to keep them around. Then the only thing left is the worst options that were available or extremely expensive options. And we end up in a situation where even fewer people have access to health care.
3. Premium Tax Breaks - Basically, make the tax code that much more complicated so that the incredibly intelligent american populace can remember to put all of this information in to a tax return. Maybe this helps some people, but it helps the wealthy the most. And it ignores that most businesses pay the most into healthcare by providing it for employees, so this isn't likely to reduce the cost of healthcare at all. $1200 is nice I guess, if you actually pay 4000 a year (most workers don't even if the average is that high). But, that would have a real cost too. 3 billion dollars. And where is that 3 billion dollars coming from? Probably from education, healthcare, roadways and other things that help improve our quality of life. Its probably not coming from the military.
4. Health Savings Accounts - These exist already. But, they're largely ineffective. When you get into a real accident, your high deductible plan leaves you tens of thousands of dollars in debt you your savings account maybe has a few thousand in it. It's a pretty awful method because when you roll unlucky your costs are high and insurance is meant to distribute the cost of the unlucky rolls across the population so that no one individual suffers for it. HSAs are also a prominent republican plan. They also already exist. Also, when you pull people like young people out of insurance plans, that means there's less money in the insurance pool for the sick. So, this will ultimately mean that insurance companies only get money from the ill. Which will actually drive up the price of decent coverage and cause a systemic crash.
5. Price Transparency - This would not be awful, but there are already attempts to make this happen. It also, probably wouldn't do a whole lot to curb the most expensive areas of care (inpatient), where you are potentially not even lucid enough to be given a pricebook as the people around you do everything they can to save you and keep you alive. That's one of the problems with healthcare is that the things you can put a price on are pretty easy, but when you get into a procedure the price can drastically change based on the supplies used and the kind of care they have to provide. That said, it would be a good thing if the price of health care was more readily known and more easily scrutinized. It's just not a unique idea and saying you want Price Transparency is an object, not a plan.
6. Block-grant Medicaid - There's no real explination for this, but it looks like its basically eliminating any federal regulation of medicaid programs. Which means that if a state doesn't want to take care of its poor and disadvantaged it can just stop. This is a shadowed attempt at eliminating medicaid programs and while it says states will continue to offer medicaid (and some certainly would), it gives many of the worst offenders a pass to leave their citizens dying in a gutter.
7. Free Market for Drug Providers - Maybe the only thing that would help with anything, its also the easiest thing to promise. Its also something a lot of dems have wanted for a long time. Its also soemthing completely unrelated to obamacare.
As a healthcare expert I find this plan to be lacking. Not only is it lacking, its dangerous and harmful to many of our fellow citizens. Which is not to say that its different from any other Republican plan. Its pretty much the same plan the point 7 slapped on to the end of it. If you were surprised, then its likely you weren't paying attention before. And if this is the best Trump can come up with, then I have no faith in his ability to lead because even if he's a good leader he'll be leading us straight into hell with these sorts of policy decisions.
This was very informative and I appreciate the time you took to address it. I am not a health care professional and I don't feel qualified in the slightest to dispute what you have just said. Healthcare is the one subject I am terribly inadequate on addressing. That being said, what would you propose would be better? Are you an advocate for Universal Healthcare?
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"But Trump is racist!!"
No. He's not politically correct and refuses to ever apologize for anything non-PC he might do or say, because he knows what happens when you start giving in. But that's all.
Trump is by the way officially endorsed by many minority figures, by the National Black Republican Association, and defended by the leader of Nation of Islam himself. And he polls quite well among minorities too.
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I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday which included the phrase “In these days of political correctness…” talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, “That’s not actually anything to do with ‘political correctness’. That’s just treating other people with respect.”
Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase “politically correct” wherever we could with “treating other people with respect”, and it made me smile.
He wants to lower taxes for the poor and end all loopholes for the rich and the multi-national corporations. He was the first to talk about corporate inversion, etc.
Per the Tax Policy Center, Trump's plan would cut taxes for middle-income households by 4.9% on average, but by almost 19% for the top 0.1%. Good job on those loopholes. By income quintile, from lowest to highest, the tax cuts would be: 1%, 3.1%, 4.9%, 5.8% and 9.7% (with the top 1% getting a 17.5% tax cut). Just to recap, that's a 1% cut for the poorest, and a 17.5% cut for the top 1%. While he's technically lowering taxes for the poor, he's not lowering them by very much compared to how much he's lowering them for the rich.
His plan would also add 11.2 trillion to the national debt by 2026.
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Appreciated again @GumOnShoe. However, when I read things like this ;
The most visible manifestation of Canada’s failing health care system are wait times for health care services. In 2013, Canadians, on average, faced a four and a half month wait for medically necessary treatment after referral by a general practitioner. This wait time is almost twice as long as it was in 1993 when national wait times were first measured.
Wait times are not a general characteristic of universal health care countries. The Commonwealth Fund’s research consistently shows that Canada has longer wait times than a number of other countries with universal health care. For example, in 2010, 41 percent of Canadian patients waited for two or more months for a specialist appointment compared to only five percent in Switzerland. Further, 25 percent of Canadians waited for four months or more for elective surgery compared to just five percent in the Netherlands. There is also evidence from the OECD showing that some nations with universal access health care systems—Belgium, France, Germany, Japan, Luxembourg, Korea, the Netherlands, and Switzerland—report no problems with wait times.
I'm left with skepticism. I wouldn't personally mind paying more in taxes for health care just so long as the above does not happen in America.
I, like many of Trump's supporters, were under the impression he was going to not release his Healthcare Plan until he won the nomination as it was very heavily rumored he was pushing Universal Healthcare, as he's advocated for it in the past. To see his current plan be released shocked a lot of us.
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"But Trump is racist!!"
No. He's not politically correct and refuses to ever apologize for anything non-PC he might do or say, because he knows what happens when you start giving in. But that's all.
Trump is by the way officially endorsed by many minority figures, by the National Black Republican Association, and defended by the leader of Nation of Islam himself. And he polls quite well among minorities too.
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I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday which included the phrase “In these days of political correctness…” talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, “That’s not actually anything to do with ‘political correctness’. That’s just treating other people with respect.”
Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase “politically correct” wherever we could with “treating other people with respect”, and it made me smile.
He wants to lower taxes for the poor and end all loopholes for the rich and the multi-national corporations. He was the first to talk about corporate inversion, etc.
Per the Tax Policy Center, Trump's plan would cut taxes for middle-income households by 4.9% on average, but by almost 19% for the top 0.1%. Good job on those loopholes. By income quintile, from lowest to highest, the tax cuts would be: 1%, 3.1%, 4.9%, 5.8% and 9.7% (with the top 1% getting a 17.5% tax cut). Just to recap, that's a 1% cut for the poorest, and a 17.5% cut for the top 1%. While he's technically lowering taxes for the poor, he's not lowering them by very much compared to how much he's lowering them for the rich.
His plan would also add 11.2 trillion to the national debt by 2026.
I think you are being disingenuous with these claims. One to six percent tax breaks among the working classes is an absolutely HUGE tax break. You are basically giving 30 - 50 percent of the population something like 300 - 500 dollars a year in money they do not have to pay for tax.
Really if you want to do the math please come back to this thread but even just one percent less tax for the lower income tax brackets is still a MMAAUSIVE tax break.
I think that if he is elected his government is going to have to realise that they are going to have a lot less money to spend. All of this notwithstanding he still wants to give most Americans a tax break. Something which is probably not going to make his job if elected easier.
This does not strike me as something as big of an ******** as liberals make him out to be would do.
"But Trump is racist!!"
No. He's not politically correct and refuses to ever apologize for anything non-PC he might do or say, because he knows what happens when you start giving in. But that's all.
Trump is by the way officially endorsed by many minority figures, by the National Black Republican Association, and defended by the leader of Nation of Islam himself. And he polls quite well among minorities too.
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I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday which included the phrase “In these days of political correctness…” talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, “That’s not actually anything to do with ‘political correctness’. That’s just treating other people with respect.”
Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase “politically correct” wherever we could with “treating other people with respect”, and it made me smile.
He wants to lower taxes for the poor and end all loopholes for the rich and the multi-national corporations. He was the first to talk about corporate inversion, etc.
Per the Tax Policy Center, Trump's plan would cut taxes for middle-income households by 4.9% on average, but by almost 19% for the top 0.1%. Good job on those loopholes. By income quintile, from lowest to highest, the tax cuts would be: 1%, 3.1%, 4.9%, 5.8% and 9.7% (with the top 1% getting a 17.5% tax cut). Just to recap, that's a 1% cut for the poorest, and a 17.5% cut for the top 1%. While he's technically lowering taxes for the poor, he's not lowering them by very much compared to how much he's lowering them for the rich.
His plan would also add 11.2 trillion to the national debt by 2026.
Is it hard to understand that taxing the rich differently makes very little difference. Those tax breaks for the lower income brackets make a much more profound difference to the amount of money a nation's citizens has to spend. Those are all huge tax breaks for a wide ranging amount of Americans.
I think that if he is elected his government is going to have to realise that they are going to have a lot less money to spend. All of this notwithstanding he still wants to give most Americans a tax break. Something which is probably not going to make his job if elected easier.
This does not strike me as something as big of an ******** as liberals make him out to be would do. People often forget this but
Trump was not rich his whole life. He understands the struggles of poor people much more than people give him credit for.
Liberals don't care. He's a big meanie who says mean things and hurts their feelings. I have a hard time trying to understand how someone who has literally done it all and wants to give his entire business to his children when he gets elected has any less credibility with wanting to help make America better than Hillary Clinton who is the literal embodiment of big business and corruption. They'll still vote for her anyway once Bernie gets shlonged in the primaries.
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"But Trump is racist!!"
No. He's not politically correct and refuses to ever apologize for anything non-PC he might do or say, because he knows what happens when you start giving in. But that's all.
Trump is by the way officially endorsed by many minority figures, by the National Black Republican Association, and defended by the leader of Nation of Islam himself. And he polls quite well among minorities too.
Quote from "Neil Gaiman, a couple of years back »
I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday which included the phrase “In these days of political correctness…” talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, “That’s not actually anything to do with ‘political correctness’. That’s just treating other people with respect.”
Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase “politically correct” wherever we could with “treating other people with respect”, and it made me smile.
He wants to lower taxes for the poor and end all loopholes for the rich and the multi-national corporations. He was the first to talk about corporate inversion, etc.
Per the Tax Policy Center, Trump's plan would cut taxes for middle-income households by 4.9% on average, but by almost 19% for the top 0.1%. Good job on those loopholes. By income quintile, from lowest to highest, the tax cuts would be: 1%, 3.1%, 4.9%, 5.8% and 9.7% (with the top 1% getting a 17.5% tax cut). Just to recap, that's a 1% cut for the poorest, and a 17.5% cut for the top 1%. While he's technically lowering taxes for the poor, he's not lowering them by very much compared to how much he's lowering them for the rich.
His plan would also add 11.2 trillion to the national debt by 2026.
Is it hard to understand that taxing the rich differently makes very little difference. Those tax breaks for the lower income brackets make a much more profound difference to the amount of money a nation's citizens has to spend. Those are all huge tax breaks for a wide ranging amount of Americans.
I think that if he is elected his government is going to have to realise that they are going to have a lot less money to spend. All of this notwithstanding he still wants to give most Americans a tax break. Something which is probably not going to make his job if elected easier.
This does not strike me as something as big of an ******** as liberals make him out to be would do.
One of the many things neither party can really deny is that income inequality is at the highest it has been since.... well ever. Trump's plan would increase that even more so. I guess the question to ask would be why would he want to increase tax cuts on the upper 1%?
If he doesn't want to give tax cuts to the lower/middle classes, fine. But why give them to the rich?
Is it hard to understand that taxing the rich differently makes very little difference. Those tax breaks for the lower income brackets make a much more profound difference to the amount of money a nation's citizens has to spend. Those are all huge tax breaks for a wide ranging amount of Americans.
I think that if he is elected his government is going to have to realise that they are going to have a lot less money to spend. All of this notwithstanding he still wants to give most Americans a tax break. Something which is probably not going to make his job if elected easier.
This does not strike me as something as big of an ******** as liberals make him out to be would do.
I'm glad you edited that last sentence out of this post.
I agree with your other points. If he shoots himself in the budget then its going to be hard to get things done and we will see yet another term of increasing debt. Perhaps then people will realize there is more to the economy than the tax and interest rates
Is it hard to understand that taxing the rich differently makes very little difference. Those tax breaks for the lower income brackets make a much more profound difference to the amount of money a nation's citizens has to spend. Those are all huge tax breaks for a wide ranging amount of Americans.
I think that if he is elected his government is going to have to realise that they are going to have a lot less money to spend. All of this notwithstanding he still wants to give most Americans a tax break. Something which is probably not going to make his job if elected easier.
This does not strike me as something as big of an ******** as liberals make him out to be would do. People often forget this but
Trump was not rich his whole life. He understands the struggles of poor people much more than people give him credit for.
The 1% tax break for the lowest income quintile (if I'm reading the table correctly) is 0.7% of the total tax change. The tax break for the highest income quintile is 67% of the total tax change. Again, fully two-thirds of the total tax change are for the top quintile of income. Less than one percent of the total tax change is for the lowest quintile. If taxing the rich differently makes very little difference, then why not scrap the cuts for the top 20% and make triple the profound differences you mention? Make a change that affects everyone - reduce the tax rate for the lowest bracket, increase the size of the lowest bracket, something like that?
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"But Trump is racist!!"
No. He's not politically correct and refuses to ever apologize for anything non-PC he might do or say, because he knows what happens when you start giving in. But that's all.
Trump is by the way officially endorsed by many minority figures, by the National Black Republican Association, and defended by the leader of Nation of Islam himself. And he polls quite well among minorities too.
Quote from "Neil Gaiman, a couple of years back »
I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday which included the phrase “In these days of political correctness…” talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, “That’s not actually anything to do with ‘political correctness’. That’s just treating other people with respect.”
Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase “politically correct” wherever we could with “treating other people with respect”, and it made me smile.
He wants to lower taxes for the poor and end all loopholes for the rich and the multi-national corporations. He was the first to talk about corporate inversion, etc.
Per the Tax Policy Center, Trump's plan would cut taxes for middle-income households by 4.9% on average, but by almost 19% for the top 0.1%. Good job on those loopholes. By income quintile, from lowest to highest, the tax cuts would be: 1%, 3.1%, 4.9%, 5.8% and 9.7% (with the top 1% getting a 17.5% tax cut). Just to recap, that's a 1% cut for the poorest, and a 17.5% cut for the top 1%. While he's technically lowering taxes for the poor, he's not lowering them by very much compared to how much he's lowering them for the rich.
His plan would also add 11.2 trillion to the national debt by 2026.
Is it hard to understand that taxing the rich differently makes very little difference. Those tax breaks for the lower income brackets make a much more profound difference to the amount of money a nation's citizens has to spend. Those are all huge tax breaks for a wide ranging amount of Americans.
I think that if he is elected his government is going to have to realise that they are going to have a lot less money to spend. All of this notwithstanding he still wants to give most Americans a tax break. Something which is probably not going to make his job if elected easier.
This does not strike me as something as big of an ******** as liberals make him out to be would do. People often forget this but
Trump was not rich his whole life. He understands the struggles of poor people much more than people give him credit for.
Liberals don't care. He's a big meanie who says mean things and hurts their feelings. I have a hard time trying to understand how someone who has literally done it all and wants to give his entire business to his children when he gets elected has any less credibility with wanting to help make America better than Hillary Clinton who is the literal embodiment of big business and corruption. They'll still vote for her anyway once Bernie gets shlonged in the primaries.
1). Don't count Sanders out yet.
2). No one is doubting Clinton is closer to the right than most of her supporters would care to admit. The problem with the two party system is that she doesn't need to be hardcore to the left, she just needs to be further than anyone on the other side of the ticket.
3). Liberals aren't the only concern with Trump. You can argue PC has gone too far, but you still need to be a tolerable person. Kaiser Wilhelm was an unstable volatile leader as well, and it showed when he alienated countries he was either allies with or at least on neutral ground. There is a real fear by all sides that Trump would alienate world leaders.
4). "They won't refuse. They're not going to refuse me. Believe me." That should be sending alarm bells through even the most fanatic of Trump supporters that this is not a man you want running the armed forces....
What trump said he was going to ban all muslims then he walked it back to not including us citizens and military personnel. We know he can't do that for legal reasons most likely the fourteenth amendment. That being said you can limit people from certain countries with a law or possibly an executive order(likely you would need a law). People really expect him to talk like a political science major, that is never going to happen. Quite frankly I like the idea of a muslim ban, is it possible to enforce, no not really.
If a candidate proposes an unworkable, illegal, impossible plan, that's generally a good reason to not support that candidate. You don't just make up your own position and pretend he said that instead.
I have a hard time trying to understand how someone who has literally done it all and wants to give his entire business to his children when he gets elected has any less credibility with wanting to help make America better than Hillary Clinton who is the literal embodiment of big business and corruption.
I have a hard time understanding how anyone who is opposed to big business and corruption thinking that Donald Trump who actually the literal embodiment of those institutions would do anything to reel them in.
"But Trump is racist!!"
No. He's not politically correct and refuses to ever apologize for anything non-PC he might do or say, because he knows what happens when you start giving in. But that's all.
Trump is by the way officially endorsed by many minority figures, by the National Black Republican Association, and defended by the leader of Nation of Islam himself. And he polls quite well among minorities too.
Quote from "Neil Gaiman, a couple of years back »
I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday which included the phrase “In these days of political correctness…” talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, “That’s not actually anything to do with ‘political correctness’. That’s just treating other people with respect.”
Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase “politically correct” wherever we could with “treating other people with respect”, and it made me smile.
He wants to lower taxes for the poor and end all loopholes for the rich and the multi-national corporations. He was the first to talk about corporate inversion, etc.
Per the Tax Policy Center, Trump's plan would cut taxes for middle-income households by 4.9% on average, but by almost 19% for the top 0.1%. Good job on those loopholes. By income quintile, from lowest to highest, the tax cuts would be: 1%, 3.1%, 4.9%, 5.8% and 9.7% (with the top 1% getting a 17.5% tax cut). Just to recap, that's a 1% cut for the poorest, and a 17.5% cut for the top 1%. While he's technically lowering taxes for the poor, he's not lowering them by very much compared to how much he's lowering them for the rich.
His plan would also add 11.2 trillion to the national debt by 2026.
Is it hard to understand that taxing the rich differently makes very little difference. Those tax breaks for the lower income brackets make a much more profound difference to the amount of money a nation's citizens has to spend. Those are all huge tax breaks for a wide ranging amount of Americans.
I think that if he is elected his government is going to have to realise that they are going to have a lot less money to spend. All of this notwithstanding he still wants to give most Americans a tax break. Something which is probably not going to make his job if elected easier.
This does not strike me as something as big of an ******** as liberals make him out to be would do. People often forget this but
Trump was not rich his whole life. He understands the struggles of poor people much more than people give him credit for.
Liberals don't care. He's a big meanie who says mean things and hurts their feelings. I have a hard time trying to understand how someone who has literally done it all and wants to give his entire business to his children when he gets elected has any less credibility with wanting to help make America better than Hillary Clinton who is the literal embodiment of big business and corruption. They'll still vote for her anyway once Bernie gets shlonged in the primaries.
1). Don't count Sanders out yet.
2). No one is doubting Clinton is closer to the right than most of her supporters would care to admit. The problem with the two party system is that she doesn't need to be hardcore to the left, she just needs to be further than anyone on the other side of the ticket.
3). Liberals aren't the only concern with Trump. You can argue PC has gone too far, but you still need to be a tolerable person. Kaiser Wilhelm was an unstable volatile leader as well, and it showed when he alienated countries he was either allies with or at least on neutral ground. There is a real fear by all sides that Trump would alienate world leaders.
4). "They won't refuse. They're not going to refuse me. Believe me." That should be sending alarm bells through even the most fanatic of Trump supporters that this is not a man you want running the armed forces....
1) If he doesn't win Ohio he's done completely on the 15th. Hillary is almost certain to win Florida. I appreciate everything Bernie is trying to do, but instead of pandering to a % of voters who hardly show up to polls he should have been putting more time in pandering to the working class and businesses. I don't know a single business owner who likes Bernie. No amount of donations and phone banking are going to save him if he loses Ohio.
2) I agree with this.
3) I've literally not seen any proof to say this would happen. Once he starts talking money they'll forget about their bias of working with him.
4) That's not him saying "I'll bomb the ***** out of them if they refuse" That's him saying "I'm confident that I can make this deal, believe me." No flags I can see.
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Yes but even if the tax break for the rich is higher the sheer amount of more poor people makes the point moot.
Is so hard to realise that a 1 percent tax break for 180 million Americans makes a lot more of a difference than a 14 percent tax break for two million people.
And a point that is rarely raised is that what a government does with these tax breaks for the rich is that they create an environment of risk taking. If this tax reform is to go trough then the government is saying the the Mark Zuckerburg's and the other venture capitalist in Silicon Valley. You know what guys and gals feel free to put your money in free enterprise because if you do you can reap the rewards much more than before.
You can bet you if Mark Zuckerburg can make nearly 15 percent more income from his business dealings he will be much more prone to risk his money in some new technology company. Making it much easier for the new Twitter or Facebook to get the funding that it needs to blow up.
These income brackets that he wants to give these big breaks to are the most fiscally active segment of society. You absolutely want to encourage these people to be active with there money. They don't just invest in a retirement annuities. They invest in the companies that change the world.
I have a hard time trying to understand how someone who has literally done it all and wants to give his entire business to his children when he gets elected has any less credibility with wanting to help make America better than Hillary Clinton who is the literal embodiment of big business and corruption.
I have a hard time understanding how anyone who is opposed to big business and corruption thinking that Donald Trump who actually the literal embodiment of those institutions would do anything to reel them in.
How is he corrupt? Do you have proof of this? His record is clean. If the GOP had anything on him aside from his contractors employing illegals, without his consent, they would have already given it. But, they have absolutely nothing. The man is under multiple audits every year on his tax return and every year they don't find a damn thing.
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How is he corrupt? Do you have proof of this? His record is clean. If the GOP had anything on him aside from his contractors employing illegals, without his consent, they would have already given it. But, they have absolutely nothing. The man is under multiple audits every year on his tax return and every year they don't find a damn thing.
How is he corrupt? Do you have proof of this? His record is clean. If the GOP had anything on him aside from his contractors employing illegals, without his consent, they would have already given it. But, they have absolutely nothing. The man is under multiple audits every year on his tax return and every year they don't find a damn thing.
Trump university comes to mind. The man is a scam artist. It is how he makes his money.
Yes but even if the tax break for the rich is higher the sheer amount of more poor people makes the point moot.
Is so hard to realise that a 1 percent tax break for 180 million Americans makes a lot more of a difference than a 14 percent tax break for two million people.
Is it so hard to read what I wrote? The number of people is already taken into account in these figures. According to the Tax Policy Center, Trump's cut for the highest quintile will have a total cost (67% of the tax change) that is 95 times greater than the cost of giving the lowest quintile that 1% tax break (0.7% of the tax change). There are as many people in the bottom quintile, by definition, as there are in the top quintile.
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How is he corrupt? Do you have proof of this? His record is clean. If the GOP had anything on him aside from his contractors employing illegals, without his consent, they would have already given it. But, they have absolutely nothing. The man is under multiple audits every year on his tax return and every year they don't find a damn thing.
Trump university comes to mind. The man is a scam artist. It is how he makes his money.
I actually can't find anything disproving Trump University being anything but a scam. I'll admit when I'm wrong and I was. Pretty disappointed reading this. I'd heard him talk about it before but never looked into it myself.
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Mhjames: mtgsalvation: I DON'T SEE HOW THIS CARD IS GOOD. I KNOW PATRICK CHAPIN USED IT AND WENT 8-0, BUT THAT WAS A SMALL TOURNAMENT. THE CARD IS TOO SLOW. YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THE OPPONENT HAS A SPELL IN THE GRAVEYARD
Please inform me of that maths. I want to see the equations that back up the claim that a tax break of 14 percent to the top 2 percent looses the government more money than the meaningful tax break trump supports for the working people.
As I say a tax break for half the country should be more impactful that the one for the top two percent regardless of the numbers. SO please I await the maths majors imput to this thread.
I actually can't find anything disproving Trump University being anything but a scam. I'll admit when I'm wrong and I was. Pretty disappointed reading this. I'd heard him talk about it before but never looked into it myself.
See that's the thing with Trump there is very little basis to anything he says. All of his debate responses are straight run-arounds in an interview he didn't even acknowledge that he is aware of the KKK existing despite going on record against David Duke previously (why it is hard for him to disavow the KKK is beyond me.)I find it impossible to either trust his word or even take him seriously as a politician.
I actually can't find anything disproving Trump University being anything but a scam. I'll admit when I'm wrong and I was. Pretty disappointed reading this. I'd heard him talk about it before but never looked into it myself.
See that's the thing with Trump there is very little basis to anything he says. All of his debate responses are straight run-arounds in an interview he didn't even acknowledge that he is aware of the KKK existing despite going on record against David Duke previously (why it is hard for him to disavow the KKK is beyond me.)I find it impossible to either trust his word or even take him seriously as a politician.
Mhjames: mtgsalvation: I DON'T SEE HOW THIS CARD IS GOOD. I KNOW PATRICK CHAPIN USED IT AND WENT 8-0, BUT THAT WAS A SMALL TOURNAMENT. THE CARD IS TOO SLOW. YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THE OPPONENT HAS A SPELL IN THE GRAVEYARD
Why did he have such trouble saying that in this video. I feel like it says a lot about the negative aspect of his stubbornness. What was there to question? How hard is it to say that he does not support violent racism? To me its pretty lack luster to come out after the backlash and only then denounce hate groups.
Why did he have such trouble saying that in this video. I feel like it says a lot about the negative aspect of his stubbornness. What was there to question? How hard is it to say that he does not support violent racism? To me its pretty lack luster to come out after the backlash and only then denounce hate groups.
I honestly have no idea. I can guess that he didn't want to comment on something this sensitive because he knew of the backlash he could receive if he said the wrong thing. It should be common sense to just say "I disavow this racist POS and all his supporters" which he eventually did. Maybe he didn't know enough about this situation and didn't feel like he should comment. Maybe his advisers told him not to. It's questionable and hell and is a serious subject on /r/the_Donald.
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Mhjames: mtgsalvation: I DON'T SEE HOW THIS CARD IS GOOD. I KNOW PATRICK CHAPIN USED IT AND WENT 8-0, BUT THAT WAS A SMALL TOURNAMENT. THE CARD IS TOO SLOW. YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THE OPPONENT HAS A SPELL IN THE GRAVEYARD
And yet, he told CNN he "doesn't know anything about David Duke".
The issue would have gone away if Trump were honest about it when asked about it.
Yet another example of him flip-flopping on an issue and it never should have been an issue. Considering how much pandering he does I am in general surprised at how much trouble this easy question has given him.
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This was very informative and I appreciate the time you took to address it. I am not a health care professional and I don't feel qualified in the slightest to dispute what you have just said. Healthcare is the one subject I am terribly inadequate on addressing. That being said, what would you propose would be better? Are you an advocate for Universal Healthcare?
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Per the Tax Policy Center, Trump's plan would cut taxes for middle-income households by 4.9% on average, but by almost 19% for the top 0.1%. Good job on those loopholes. By income quintile, from lowest to highest, the tax cuts would be: 1%, 3.1%, 4.9%, 5.8% and 9.7% (with the top 1% getting a 17.5% tax cut). Just to recap, that's a 1% cut for the poorest, and a 17.5% cut for the top 1%. While he's technically lowering taxes for the poor, he's not lowering them by very much compared to how much he's lowering them for the rich.
His plan would also add 11.2 trillion to the national debt by 2026.
I'm left with skepticism. I wouldn't personally mind paying more in taxes for health care just so long as the above does not happen in America.
I, like many of Trump's supporters, were under the impression he was going to not release his Healthcare Plan until he won the nomination as it was very heavily rumored he was pushing Universal Healthcare, as he's advocated for it in the past. To see his current plan be released shocked a lot of us.
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I think you are being disingenuous with these claims. One to six percent tax breaks among the working classes is an absolutely HUGE tax break. You are basically giving 30 - 50 percent of the population something like 300 - 500 dollars a year in money they do not have to pay for tax.
Really if you want to do the math please come back to this thread but even just one percent less tax for the lower income tax brackets is still a MMAAUSIVE tax break.
I think that if he is elected his government is going to have to realise that they are going to have a lot less money to spend. All of this notwithstanding he still wants to give most Americans a tax break. Something which is probably not going to make his job if elected easier.
This does not strike me as something as big of an ******** as liberals make him out to be would do.
Liberals don't care. He's a big meanie who says mean things and hurts their feelings. I have a hard time trying to understand how someone who has literally done it all and wants to give his entire business to his children when he gets elected has any less credibility with wanting to help make America better than Hillary Clinton who is the literal embodiment of big business and corruption. They'll still vote for her anyway once Bernie gets shlonged in the primaries.
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One of the many things neither party can really deny is that income inequality is at the highest it has been since.... well ever. Trump's plan would increase that even more so. I guess the question to ask would be why would he want to increase tax cuts on the upper 1%?
If he doesn't want to give tax cuts to the lower/middle classes, fine. But why give them to the rich?
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I'm glad you edited that last sentence out of this post.
I agree with your other points. If he shoots himself in the budget then its going to be hard to get things done and we will see yet another term of increasing debt. Perhaps then people will realize there is more to the economy than the tax and interest rates
1). Don't count Sanders out yet.
2). No one is doubting Clinton is closer to the right than most of her supporters would care to admit. The problem with the two party system is that she doesn't need to be hardcore to the left, she just needs to be further than anyone on the other side of the ticket.
3). Liberals aren't the only concern with Trump. You can argue PC has gone too far, but you still need to be a tolerable person. Kaiser Wilhelm was an unstable volatile leader as well, and it showed when he alienated countries he was either allies with or at least on neutral ground. There is a real fear by all sides that Trump would alienate world leaders.
4). "They won't refuse. They're not going to refuse me. Believe me." That should be sending alarm bells through even the most fanatic of Trump supporters that this is not a man you want running the armed forces....
The GJ way path to no lynching:
If a candidate proposes an unworkable, illegal, impossible plan, that's generally a good reason to not support that candidate. You don't just make up your own position and pretend he said that instead.
1) If he doesn't win Ohio he's done completely on the 15th. Hillary is almost certain to win Florida. I appreciate everything Bernie is trying to do, but instead of pandering to a % of voters who hardly show up to polls he should have been putting more time in pandering to the working class and businesses. I don't know a single business owner who likes Bernie. No amount of donations and phone banking are going to save him if he loses Ohio.
2) I agree with this.
3) I've literally not seen any proof to say this would happen. Once he starts talking money they'll forget about their bias of working with him.
4) That's not him saying "I'll bomb the ***** out of them if they refuse" That's him saying "I'm confident that I can make this deal, believe me." No flags I can see.
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Is so hard to realise that a 1 percent tax break for 180 million Americans makes a lot more of a difference than a 14 percent tax break for two million people.
And a point that is rarely raised is that what a government does with these tax breaks for the rich is that they create an environment of risk taking. If this tax reform is to go trough then the government is saying the the Mark Zuckerburg's and the other venture capitalist in Silicon Valley. You know what guys and gals feel free to put your money in free enterprise because if you do you can reap the rewards much more than before.
You can bet you if Mark Zuckerburg can make nearly 15 percent more income from his business dealings he will be much more prone to risk his money in some new technology company. Making it much easier for the new Twitter or Facebook to get the funding that it needs to blow up.
These income brackets that he wants to give these big breaks to are the most fiscally active segment of society. You absolutely want to encourage these people to be active with there money. They don't just invest in a retirement annuities. They invest in the companies that change the world.
How is he corrupt? Do you have proof of this? His record is clean. If the GOP had anything on him aside from his contractors employing illegals, without his consent, they would have already given it. But, they have absolutely nothing. The man is under multiple audits every year on his tax return and every year they don't find a damn thing.
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Trump University.
I actually can't find anything disproving Trump University being anything but a scam. I'll admit when I'm wrong and I was. Pretty disappointed reading this. I'd heard him talk about it before but never looked into it myself.
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As I say a tax break for half the country should be more impactful that the one for the top two percent regardless of the numbers. SO please I await the maths majors imput to this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUxd-6jFQQo
The KKK nonsense needs to go away.
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Why did he have such trouble saying that in this video. I feel like it says a lot about the negative aspect of his stubbornness. What was there to question? How hard is it to say that he does not support violent racism? To me its pretty lack luster to come out after the backlash and only then denounce hate groups.
And yet, he told CNN he "doesn't know anything about David Duke".
The issue would have gone away if Trump were honest about it when asked about it.
I honestly have no idea. I can guess that he didn't want to comment on something this sensitive because he knew of the backlash he could receive if he said the wrong thing. It should be common sense to just say "I disavow this racist POS and all his supporters" which he eventually did. Maybe he didn't know enough about this situation and didn't feel like he should comment. Maybe his advisers told him not to. It's questionable and hell and is a serious subject on /r/the_Donald.
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