@Poxy: Though the card personifies a horrible act in human history i don't find it tasteless. It's basically a lot of dead people right? If he said here's a group of dead people, people wouldn't even be reacting -.-. I liked it :).
The problem is whoever commissioned the card had some message in mind with it. I can't see any good intention on their behalf since this can provoke tons of hatred and jokes just by making a connection between the card and event. As dry cereal said jew isn't a creature type.
I don't think the art itself is offensive and wouldn't have even related it to The Holocaust had I not been told that was the intent. Poxy also made it clear he had no ill-intention when painting the card. My only problem is that whoever commissioned it might have. If you dig a little you will see he has a typical Serbian/Croat last name. This means the likelihood of there being anti-semetic sentiments behind the commission is greatly increased. Serbia isn't exactly known for its religious tolerance and Croatia is probably the most fascist country in Europe today.
Anyway, while I do think the decree is a questionable call I don't have any problems seeing Hitler on a card especially if there is no provocatory meaning. Anyone who does is just over-sensitive. Hitler on Words of War or Goebbels on propaganda is similar to seeing Darth Vader on a card pronounced "villens-kraft" and makes much more sense than seeing naked anime girls on basic lands.
I agree with your post :), i just don't think the art is distasteful, which was my personal opinion on the alter ^^,. Some may not like it, but i don't feel it should be necessary to remove it from the boards. One could comment that the one who commisioned the piece should rethink his choice for alters, sure. But i still think it's an cool alter ^^,.
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To be entirely honest, I see nothing wrong with Poxy's art. He did a commission, and I see no problem with it, though it is a sensitive issue.
My apologies to everyone who may have a different take on that "tsabo's decree holocaust alter"..I should be careful.
Again..I have no bad intentions, was just doing a commissioned piece..I was hesitant at first at posting it, but then again i thought this part of history made us a BETTER WORLD TODAY...I made my stand clear on the "introduction" before the spoiler, i know everyone understands what's in it and it is NOT a joke.
Also, please do not connect any of my other altered card "THAT HAS NOT BEEN POSTED on this THREAD" on that tsabo's decree card..it is purely coincidental, and my photobucket album is just where i store my artworks. They ALL have different owners, as specified.
I hope the discussions with that certain alter stops here and we'll see more of our creativity here in the forums.
My apologies to everyone who may have a different take on that "tsabo's decree holocaust alter"..I should be careful.
Again..I have no bad intentions, was just doing a commissioned piece..I was hesitant at first at posting it, but then again i thought this part of history made us a BETTER WORLD TODAY...I made my stand clear on the "introduction" before the spoiler, i know everyone understands what's in it and it is NOT a joke.
Also, please do not connect any of my other altered card "THAT HAS NOT BEEN POSTED on this THREAD" on that tsabo's decree card..it is purely coincidental, and my photobucket album is just where i store my artworks. They ALL have different owners, as specified.
I hope the discussions with that certain alter stops here and we'll see more of our creativity here in the forums.
Have a great day everyone.
Could not of been summarized better. Sure, some art is distasteful and brings back horrific memories, but art is art. He did it out of commission, not because he wanted to.
Which reminds me, I still haven't posted my alters in a while....brb!
So... like many others that saw this thread. I looked threw it and was amazed every piece of art I saw here. far too many to begin pointing out. And a few of the tutorials were so great it inspired me to start doing some of my own for the 1st time in my life... So I went to a hobby shop and bought about 50 bucks worth of stuff and this is what i did...( I'm not sure if i posted them right... this whole forum thing is new to me) Unfortunately they didn't come out near as well as I had suspected. Can any one tell me why it sucks so bad so I can start doing better lol.
@Seijurohiko: well its not really that bad for a first alter, but to get the paint smoother I would suggest to thin out the paint with water. Many layers of thin paint > few with thick. Sure it takes some extra time, but the results will be better.
@Masamune: Thats pretty sick!
@Laura Lou: I second Poxy, On their own they are super, but then they can be puzzled together, which makes 'em EPIC!
That is beautiful. I'm at awe.
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Amazing, simply amazing. That is one of your coolest alters yet!
Also very nice, masa.
The problem is whoever commissioned the card had some message in mind with it. I can't see any good intention on their behalf since this can provoke tons of hatred and jokes just by making a connection between the card and event. As dry cereal said jew isn't a creature type.
I don't think the art itself is offensive and wouldn't have even related it to The Holocaust had I not been told that was the intent. Poxy also made it clear he had no ill-intention when painting the card. My only problem is that whoever commissioned it might have. If you dig a little you will see he has a typical Serbian/Croat last name. This means the likelihood of there being anti-semetic sentiments behind the commission is greatly increased. Serbia isn't exactly known for its religious tolerance and Croatia is probably the most fascist country in Europe today.
Anyway, while I do think the decree is a questionable call I don't have any problems seeing Hitler on a card especially if there is no provocatory meaning. Anyone who does is just over-sensitive. Hitler on Words of War or Goebbels on propaganda is similar to seeing Darth Vader on a card pronounced "villens-kraft" and makes much more sense than seeing naked anime girls on basic lands.
I agree with your post :), i just don't think the art is distasteful, which was my personal opinion on the alter ^^,. Some may not like it, but i don't feel it should be necessary to remove it from the boards. One could comment that the one who commisioned the piece should rethink his choice for alters, sure. But i still think it's an cool alter ^^,.
To be entirely honest, I see nothing wrong with Poxy's art. He did a commission, and I see no problem with it, though it is a sensitive issue.
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Again..I have no bad intentions, was just doing a commissioned piece..I was hesitant at first at posting it, but then again i thought this part of history made us a BETTER WORLD TODAY...I made my stand clear on the "introduction" before the spoiler, i know everyone understands what's in it and it is NOT a joke.
Also, please do not connect any of my other altered card "THAT HAS NOT BEEN POSTED on this THREAD" on that tsabo's decree card..it is purely coincidental, and my photobucket album is just where i store my artworks. They ALL have different owners, as specified.
I hope the discussions with that certain alter stops here and we'll see more of our creativity here in the forums.
Have a great day everyone.
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Could not of been summarized better. Sure, some art is distasteful and brings back horrific memories, but art is art. He did it out of commission, not because he wanted to.
Which reminds me, I still haven't posted my alters in a while....brb!
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Wow. Both of these on one page? Incredible. Both really fantastic alters. Nice work guys.
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I really liked the look of them individually, but its really cool that you can piece them together. The execution looks flawless as well.
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i hope i can get that in the future,. sol rings are sick
thanks to DNC of Heroes of the Plane Studios for the coolest sig
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URBTES-54/60URB
Fun deck-BBBBKobolds stormBBBB
@Masamune: Thats pretty sick!
@Laura Lou: I second Poxy, On their own they are super, but then they can be puzzled together, which makes 'em EPIC!
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