I'm sorry guys but I saw that no one has mentioned Skeleton Ship yet, because that has to be the best worst art ever. I mean there are skeletons riding sea turtles (like total bosses) and the artwork for the ship itself is, well, just wow. Also it's a legend so you know it's ballin'.
I'm sorry guys but I saw that no one has mentioned Skeleton Ship yet, because that has to be the best worst art ever. I mean there are skeletons riding sea turtles (like total bosses) and the artwork for the ship itself is, well, just wow. Also it's a legend so you know it's ballin'.
Flying sea turtles no less, and it's a combination piece of two artists...One of them should have take a step back and said "Wait a minute, this isn't right." errata would read creature - legendary boat.
As for Ebon Praetor It's obviously a metaphor for Avatar, with the Bunny demon(should be a creature type!) representing corporate greed, and the demon representing the military pulling the poor oblivious blue people to their doom at the hands of the Anteater pilgrim who represents. . .anteater pilgrims of course. This card started the idea for James Cameron and Zendikar block fleshed it out with floating islands and baloths.
Hanna, Ship's Navigator, and I play with her as my EDH general. She's referred to by a friend of mine as a burn victim - something about the face, which is a shame, because there are so many better depictions of her that exist out there (see associated artworks here).
I rather like how she's drawn in Energy Flux and Protective Sphere, but of course, in the latter's case, Rebecca Guay is awesome.
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Seriously, if you are going to complain about Amy Weber or Fay Jones:
- Pick a card that's not from the first sets of Magic. They had no fricking idea what they were doing then. How could Fay ever know what kind of art they really wanted for Stasis? Whatever could have been her standard? Similarly to Amy Weber and Blue Mana Battery. She painted homeruns like Armageddon Clock or Illusionary Mask as well. If you want to criticize anyone's judgement, it should be the art director's.
- Regarding Terese Nielsen, it's fine if you hate Silkwing Scout because she dropped the ball there, it's terrible renaissance fair quality kind of art. The rest of her work is usually great.
- I think it's better to talk crap about new art -- I mean, what's a bigger let down? Word of Command 20 years ago, or Angel's Mercy today - god, that looks like something that would be decal on an El Dorado.
There's red wolf in dark ascension that just looks like a man in a wolf suit...it's awful. I can't think of the name now, I thought it was feral ridgewolf, but that isn't it.....bah...anyway. It's a common. Just terrible.
- I think it's better to talk crap about new art -- I mean, what's a bigger let down? Word of Command 20 years ago, or Angel's Mercy today - god, that looks like something that would be decal on an El Dorado.
Which Angel's Mercy are you refering to? I suppose an argument could be made against the M10 version since her knees appear to be glowing, but the recent one from Avacyn Restored is guilty only of aping Kiss of the Amesha.
- Regarding Terese Nielsen, it's fine if you hate Silkwing Scout because she dropped the ball there, it's terrible renaissance fair quality kind of art. The rest of her work is usually great.
Silkwing Scout was illustrated by Rebecca Guay, not Terese Nielsen.
I've seen very few Nielsen arts I didn't like. Despise is probably the worst I've seen, since the image is nearly incomprehensible at card size; the crying figure in the bottom right should have been moved more to the center and increased in size to make it clearer that she's the focus of the image. I'm also not a fan of Dismember, since it has an ugly color palette.
Everything else by her? Love it.
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Which Angel's Mercy are you refering to? I suppose an argument could be made against the M10 version since her knees appear to be glowing, but the recent one from Avacyn Restored is guilty only of aping Kiss of the Amesha.
I think the AVR one looks like a tacky Christian piece. The guitar method is pretty good.
There's red wolf in dark ascension that just looks like a man in a wolf suit...it's awful. I can't think of the name now, I thought it was feral ridgewolf, but that isn't it.....bah...anyway. It's a common. Just terrible.
Hehe, I have to agree. That Angel's Mercy card is pretty awful. Just ugly, plain and simple.
And I know you all might kill me for saying this, but I REALLY hate how the Avacyn card turned out.
I mean, seriously. Her pose is just awkward. Blossom and Bubbles and Buttercup ALL look more epic and more interesting than she does, and she's the namesake card for the set!
Granted, she's not anatomically incorrect, nor is the problem about painting or skill, because the wings are very well done.
But that moonsilver spear is so big and unwieldy, it makes me want to cry. The foreshortening is just plain WRONG, and you don't hold a weapon that high up on the shaft if you're intending to show it off (or you know, actually STAB something with it). Moreover, the legs have to compensate for the weight of the spear, which just throws her body into the ugliest diagonal ever.
Now, the following is just a spoof card but I swear it looks better than the real card ... Oh Jason Chan. Why, oh why didn't you paint two equally awesome Avacyns, instead of one really good, and one really not-so-good?
I cry whenever I see Oblivion Ring. Not only because whoever casts it is exiling my dearest creature on the battlefield, but also because of the awful pose (in my opinion) and perspective. Shame on you, Franz Vohwinkel.
Also, take a look at Voltaic Key. Is there any explanation for the disturbance of otherwise a great piece by those weird, spiderlike tatoos (or whatever that is)? Also, what is the voltaic key "charging"? Teferi's Puzzle Box? Can that even be charged? Oh, look. Franz Vohwinkel too.
I agree on the Oblivion Ring art. The one from Lorwyn was much better.
About those tattoos on Voltaic Key: Yeah, I was wondering the same thing with Scrambleverse. Truly amazing piece of art, but what's up with the tattoos? I'm guessing since it showed up twice, it was supposed to be a reference to a specific character who has tattooed hands perhaps? I'm just really under the impression that the tattoos were the fault of the commissioner, not the artist.
For me it's always been Rekindled Flame. The focus of the piece is so passive for a burn spell, and aside from that the piece as a whole just seems so flat and amateur-level. I've reviled it since it's unveiling, and no other art, old/busted or otherwise comes close in my opinion.
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Flying sea turtles no less, and it's a combination piece of two artists...One of them should have take a step back and said "Wait a minute, this isn't right." errata would read creature - legendary boat.
As for Ebon Praetor It's obviously a metaphor for Avatar, with the Bunny demon(should be a creature type!) representing corporate greed, and the demon representing the military pulling the poor oblivious blue people to their doom at the hands of the Anteater pilgrim who represents. . .anteater pilgrims of course. This card started the idea for James Cameron and Zendikar block fleshed it out with floating islands and baloths.
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I rather like how she's drawn in Energy Flux and Protective Sphere, but of course, in the latter's case, Rebecca Guay is awesome.
Seriously, if you are going to complain about Amy Weber or Fay Jones:
- Pick a card that's not from the first sets of Magic. They had no fricking idea what they were doing then. How could Fay ever know what kind of art they really wanted for Stasis? Whatever could have been her standard? Similarly to Amy Weber and Blue Mana Battery. She painted homeruns like Armageddon Clock or Illusionary Mask as well. If you want to criticize anyone's judgement, it should be the art director's.
- Regarding Terese Nielsen, it's fine if you hate Silkwing Scout because she dropped the ball there, it's terrible renaissance fair quality kind of art. The rest of her work is usually great.
- I think it's better to talk crap about new art -- I mean, what's a bigger let down? Word of Command 20 years ago, or Angel's Mercy today - god, that looks like something that would be decal on an El Dorado.
Which Angel's Mercy are you refering to? I suppose an argument could be made against the M10 version since her knees appear to be glowing, but the recent one from Avacyn Restored is guilty only of aping Kiss of the Amesha.
The best way to judge Magic art is whether or not you hear a sweet guitar solo in your head when viewing it. Kilnmouth Dragon? Yes. Selesnya Guildmage? No. Gisela, Blade of Goldnight? Double guitars.
Silkwing Scout was illustrated by Rebecca Guay, not Terese Nielsen.
I've seen very few Nielsen arts I didn't like. Despise is probably the worst I've seen, since the image is nearly incomprehensible at card size; the crying figure in the bottom right should have been moved more to the center and increased in size to make it clearer that she's the focus of the image. I'm also not a fan of Dismember, since it has an ugly color palette.
Everything else by her? Love it.
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Yeah, thanks, it was a brainfart on my part. I agree whole-heartedly on your comments about Dismember and Despise.
I think the AVR one looks like a tacky Christian piece. The guitar method is pretty good.
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And I know you all might kill me for saying this, but I REALLY hate how the Avacyn card turned out.
I mean, seriously. Her pose is just awkward. Blossom and Bubbles and Buttercup ALL look more epic and more interesting than she does, and she's the namesake card for the set!
Granted, she's not anatomically incorrect, nor is the problem about painting or skill, because the wings are very well done.
But that moonsilver spear is so big and unwieldy, it makes me want to cry. The foreshortening is just plain WRONG, and you don't hold a weapon that high up on the shaft if you're intending to show it off (or you know, actually STAB something with it). Moreover, the legs have to compensate for the weight of the spear, which just throws her body into the ugliest diagonal ever.
Now, the following is just a spoof card but I swear it looks better than the real card ... Oh Jason Chan. Why, oh why didn't you paint two equally awesome Avacyns, instead of one really good, and one really not-so-good?
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Also, I just plain don't like Rakish Heir and his corset.
I agree on the Oblivion Ring art. The one from Lorwyn was much better.
About those tattoos on Voltaic Key: Yeah, I was wondering the same thing with Scrambleverse. Truly amazing piece of art, but what's up with the tattoos? I'm guessing since it showed up twice, it was supposed to be a reference to a specific character who has tattooed hands perhaps? I'm just really under the impression that the tattoos were the fault of the commissioner, not the artist.
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