Can horde of notions second ability be used in the command zone similar to Derevi, Empyrial Tactician if not why? Derevi does not have an ability saying he can use it while in The command zone.
Derevi's activated ability actively refers to the command zone.
his triggered ability does not function from the command zone.
only abilities/effects that actively refer to the command zone, function there. otherwise consider it in exile. (but not affected by cards that affect cards in exile)
Assume that activated abilities only function while a card is in play unless it specifies that it works otherwise.
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Specifically the reason being, cards not on the battlefield, have zero abilities, unless the card itself specifies it has an ability that works from the zone it is in.
Any ability on a creature can only be used while that creature is on the battlefield unless the ability itself says otherwise.
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician says "Put Derevi onto the battlefield from the command zone." This ability doesn't need to say "use this ability only if Derevi is in the command zone" because its current wording is already clear. You cannot move Derevi "from the command zone" if it is in another zone.
Horde of Notions, on the other hand, has an ability that does not even reference itself. It does reference other cards in the graveyard, but Horde has to be on the battlefield to use this ability. "You may play target Elemental card from your graveyard without paying its mana cost." Because it does not reference a zone that Horde has to be in, it defaults to the game rules that say a creature must be on the battlefield to use an ability.
Derevi's activated ability actively refers to the command zone.
his triggered ability does not function from the command zone.
only abilities/effects that actively refer to the command zone, function there. otherwise consider it in exile. (but not affected by cards that affect cards in exile)
We also have a wonderful rules forum here for any ruling questions you may have. Just make sure to read the rules there as they tend to favor use of card tags.
Welcome to MTGSalvation. If you ever have any questions feel free to ask.
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Derevi, Empyrial Tactician says "Put Derevi onto the battlefield from the command zone." This ability doesn't need to say "use this ability only if Derevi is in the command zone" because its current wording is already clear. You cannot move Derevi "from the command zone" if it is in another zone.
Horde of Notions, on the other hand, has an ability that does not even reference itself. It does reference other cards in the graveyard, but Horde has to be on the battlefield to use this ability. "You may play target Elemental card from your graveyard without paying its mana cost." Because it does not reference a zone that Horde has to be in, it defaults to the game rules that say a creature must be on the battlefield to use an ability.
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