Not sure how others feel about this, but can the nested quotes change be reverted? While being able to see the progression of quote wars is nice, more and more people are complaining about misattributed quotes due to the complexities of the nested quotes.
In particular, responding to specific points in the mafia forum is very difficult if the post contains nested quotes.
Is there a specific forum you're referring to? There are multiple forums that have been asking for them, so we turned them on there. But we also turned them on in any forum that looked like they would benefit from nested quotes.
I'm not a fan of them in particular in the mafia forum. While nested quotes do provide more context than a single quote they do lead to even longer than normal posts. Walls of text are not fun to wade through, especially when the full context can't be expressed even with nested quotes. Responding to a specific point in a large post of nested quotes is difficult; finding the part to respond to and ensuring the quote link is correct is maddening.
Like, when you`re quoting someone, there`s a checkbox (which, by default, is disabled) you can check, and if it`s checked, it will nest-quote everything; else, it will just quote the last post.
I think I actually suggested this a while ago (or, at the very least, intended to do so) - this will enable easy nest-quoting when necessary, and stop it whenever not necessary.
To be honest, I don`t like to nest-quote, but usually, I`m just way too lazy to crop out everything everytime, so an option that`ll do it automatically is quite nifty.
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Agreed. Mafiascum has nested quotes, and I find I prefer it.
I have to say I agree as well. In fact, this is the only forum I have ever been on that did NOT have nested quotes by default. I say a poll can be done, but I find that most mafia players will want it on.
While I happen to agree that they fit the mafia forum nicely, I've been a pretty big proponent of the optional nested quote option depending on how hard it would be to implement on the backend. Knowing what I do about forum design, I'd like to think it's not that hard to implement.
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We can ask Hannes if he can make it a checkbox option, but I can't promise that that's actually possible, or going to be done in a timely manner. A poll of the Mafia Community whether to leave it on or turn it off until the checkbox can be made may be needed.
Since a mod just requested us to tone down the nesting in debate, I posted a reply there explaining the importance of being clear which posts are being replied to. I preferred it better before the automatic nesting, since it was a lot less spammy, but also understand the benefits it provides. I just dont want to get in trouble by the mods for simply replying (using the normal reply feature) to another poster's specific post. If the mods in those forums are going to have issues with normal replying, then the automatic nesting should probably be turned off.
Just my opinion on the topic.
EDIT: The response to my post in debate by the mod is fair enough, it just means I wont be bothering to post there until this gets fixed. Im not going to risk an infraction for something thats built into the system. Debate was more just a side distraction thing for me anyway, just unfortunate that it worked out this way.
I like nested quotes in pretty much every forum I am in, so if no option can be made I'd prefer to leave them on. It is much easier to remove unwanted parts than to insert stuff you want to nest.
The experience I have is, that once you enable nested quotes as default; 99% will simply nest-quote everything and don`t even bother to crop out the irrelevant stuff, making quote-wars multiple pages long real quick.
I really like the fact that vB allows auto-crop quotes; nested quotes should only enabled as a optional option that isn`t default - else the forums will become quote wars real soon.
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In particular, responding to specific points in the mafia forum is very difficult if the post contains nested quotes.
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Like, when you`re quoting someone, there`s a checkbox (which, by default, is disabled) you can check, and if it`s checked, it will nest-quote everything; else, it will just quote the last post.
I think I actually suggested this a while ago (or, at the very least, intended to do so) - this will enable easy nest-quoting when necessary, and stop it whenever not necessary.
To be honest, I don`t like to nest-quote, but usually, I`m just way too lazy to crop out everything everytime, so an option that`ll do it automatically is quite nifty.
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540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyAgreed. Mafiascum has nested quotes, and I find I prefer it.
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Im indifferent then.... i kinda like the nested, but I also dont....
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyI have to say I agree as well. In fact, this is the only forum I have ever been on that did NOT have nested quotes by default. I say a poll can be done, but I find that most mafia players will want it on.
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Just my opinion on the topic.
EDIT: The response to my post in debate by the mod is fair enough, it just means I wont be bothering to post there until this gets fixed. Im not going to risk an infraction for something thats built into the system. Debate was more just a side distraction thing for me anyway, just unfortunate that it worked out this way.
I really like the fact that vB allows auto-crop quotes; nested quotes should only enabled as a optional option that isn`t default - else the forums will become quote wars real soon.
—Neerdiv, fallowsage