If you want to talk about unreadable text, it's copperplate, not colors and sizes. Every time I have to highlight that guy's post, I realize how ridiculous the policy is. Either ban that font, or just let people post in whatever they want to. The fact that some people have gotten warnings/infractions for their font, and yet that is allowed to be posted with, is not only hilarious, but potentially hazardous for my eyesight.
Copperplate Gothic has tiny serifs and no lowercase letters, only small caps. The tiny serifs aid letterform recognition in print, but have the opposite effect on the screen. Small caps are a poor choice for setting body text in because uppercase letters are less legible than lowercase ones. For these reasons, Copperplate Gothic has low legibility for the screen as body copy and promotes eyestrain, especially for those of us that work on the computer all day long. Copperplate Gothic shouldbe disallowed.
Craven's solution doesn't work as I won't delete it from my system fonts because I use it legitimately for print titling in my graphic design work.
Its hypocritical to ban one font/color without another that could be considered obscure. Or rather, its an abuse of power to ban one text and not another based on a moderators stance, and disregarding regular posters input.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Quote from "MD" »
Stop ignoring halcyon's excellent point.
Quote from "Huey Freeman" »
"I never prayed before. I don't even know who I am praying to. Maybe I'm too young to know what the world suppose is to be. But it's not suppose to be this. It can't be this. Please."
I can see it perfectly clear. And I have a crappy system.
Is this just another least argue over something for arguments sake or is it just wasting our time on this?
Looking at the complaints I am leaning towards the later...
I can see it perfectly clear as well. But I don't have the font installed.
Why are perfectly readable, Windows standard fonts being argued against? They're more likely to be readable than anything else, especially bold underline Impact or whatever it was kcw was using. Seems like someone's got a lot of time on their hands and nothing useful to do with it.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Hey all... I'm retired, not dead. Check out what I'm doing these days (and beg me to come back if you want):
Copperplate Gothic has tiny serifs and no lowercase letters, only small caps. The tiny serifs aid letterform recognition in print, but have the opposite effect on the screen. Small caps are a poor choice for setting body text in because uppercase letters are less legible than lowercase ones. For these reasons, Copperplate Gothic has low legibility for the screen as body copy and promotes eyestrain, especially for those of us that work on the computer all day long. Copperplate Gothic shouldbe disallowed.
Craven's solution doesn't work as I won't delete it from my system fonts because I use it legitimately for print titling in my graphic design work.
This is what I'm talking about, and it's hideous. Not only is it overused in marketing, but I certainly don't want to have to read posts like this.
If the above font is the correct size for font size 2 here on the boards then just ask the posters that use this thing to increase their size by one. I can read it perfectly fine otherwise... Is there some other reason why this font is unreadable for you Keeper?
Like...Some people are illiterate. We wouldn't want to make them work too hard in trying to read, would we? We should just ban fonts in general and have everyone just post pictures.
Here's an idea, how about you only have the default font on the forum? You've banned invisitext, you've banned "hard to read" font.
You want to talk about hard to read? That blue and pink shiat that people post is hard to read.
Just take all the colors and font styles out and make everything be the default font.
Problem solved. Or is that too intelligent of a solution?
I would just like to take this opportunity to point out that purple font on night mode is irritating to the eyes and difficult to read.
Purple font? You mean purple colored text right?
Assuming that I'm not misunderstanding you and there's actually a purple font, a quick switch on the dark skin shows that purple colored text is easily read on the dark skin.
Again though, there is a margin for small differences due to screen brightness. I have my screen on default factory settings though.
I'd be a happy camper if all text-modification were disabled. They're an extreme annoyance almost all of the time I've seen them implimented. Half the time I think they are purposely implimented to annoy.
And thought the recent ruling that unreadable font is banned is laudable, it's totally unenforcable. This is one feature I'd be much happier without. There are so few colors that look good in all of the forum styles, and most other fonts are unreadable, too large, or annoyingly small.
Copperplate looks disturbingly similar to all caps. The lowercase letters are just slightly smaller. My browser doesn't catch it, but I can definitely see the case against its readability.
Also, I agree with waymc's views on fonts in general. I think consistency and readability trump customization, and I'd prefer the removal of custom fonts and colors.
Could a solution be to allow an option in the prefs. to force standard font/colour/size if the user wishes. i.e i can go in, select the option and anyone can post in whatever silly font they like, but i'll see it as the forum standard?
Suggested and deemed impractical, iirc. Something about the font/size/color code being attached to each post in the database and no way to strip it per request, perhaps?
Is this something an extension in FireFox could handle?
">This is the font that KeeperEUSC is talking about, for reference.
Copperplate Gothic has tiny serifs and no lowercase letters, only small caps. The tiny serifs aid letterform recognition in print, but have the opposite effect on the screen. Small caps are a poor choice for setting body text in because uppercase letters are less legible than lowercase ones. For these reasons, Copperplate Gothic has low legibility for the screen as body copy and promotes eyestrain, especially for those of us that work on the computer all day long. Copperplate Gothic should be disallowed.
Craven's solution doesn't work as I won't delete it from my system fonts because I use it legitimately for print titling in my graphic design work.
Also, the font example above renders as normal font for me; apparently my system doesn't recognize it.
Magic Rules Advisor
How Creatures Die
Targets | Triggered Abilities | Priority and the Stack | Older Articles
Is this just another least argue over something for arguments sake or is it just wasting our time on this?
Looking at the complaints I am leaning towards the later...
Why are perfectly readable, Windows standard fonts being argued against? They're more likely to be readable than anything else, especially bold underline Impact or whatever it was kcw was using. Seems like someone's got a lot of time on their hands and nothing useful to do with it.
https://twitch.tv/annorax10 (classic retro speedruns & occasional MTGO/MTGA screwaround streams)
https://twitch.tv/SwiftorCasino (yes, my team and I run live dealer games for the baldman using his channel points as chips)
Here's the Copperplate Gothic family, for reference.
This is what I'm talking about, and it's hideous. Not only is it overused in marketing, but I certainly don't want to have to read posts like this.
This is Copperplate
I don't see any difference.
Ah, that makes sense, I didn't realize that.
Could somebody who can see this font please take a picture of a sentence with it and upload it so I can see what it looks like in a post? Thanks.
You want to talk about hard to read? That blue and pink shiat that people post is hard to read.
Just take all the colors and font styles out and make everything be the default font.
Problem solved. Or is that too intelligent of a solution?
Buy from me on TCGPlayer::Twitter::Flickr
Purple font? You mean purple colored text right?
Assuming that I'm not misunderstanding you and there's actually a purple font, a quick switch on the dark skin shows that purple colored text is easily read on the dark skin.
Again though, there is a margin for small differences due to screen brightness. I have my screen on default factory settings though.
And thought the recent ruling that unreadable font is banned is laudable, it's totally unenforcable. This is one feature I'd be much happier without. There are so few colors that look good in all of the forum styles, and most other fonts are unreadable, too large, or annoyingly small.
Also, I agree with waymc's views on fonts in general. I think consistency and readability trump customization, and I'd prefer the removal of custom fonts and colors.
Suggested and deemed impractical, iirc. Something about the font/size/color code being attached to each post in the database and no way to strip it per request, perhaps?
Is this something an extension in FireFox could handle?
*runs off to check Mozilla site*
Magic scoresheet for download
Turn reference chart for download