I am thinking about making an EDH deck on MTGO because I am not around my buddies much during the summer. However, I would like to get a vague estimate on how many tix I will need to buy to do so. I know some cards cost considerably less, and some oddly enough will cost more on there.
Is there a website I can plug my deck into and get an MTGO estimate?
Thanks.
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Not that easy I don't think check mtgolibrary out. Unfortunately a lot if the prices have really spiked cards I got for 5 tics years ago are 50 but like any other investment you can always cash out. An optimized deck is no longer cheap but you can make a fairly good budget deck fur much less than in paper but IMO it's worth it to use the client and not trice
There are cards that cost 50 tix? That's crazy, I was hoping I could make a decent deck and maybe evewn play a few cards I wouldn't be able to in paper magic because of price. I will have to check out that website though. Thanks.
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Easiest thing I can think of is to go to a site that sells singles for MTGO (like MTGO Traders) and put the deck you want to build into your cart just to see the total.
FoW and LED are over 100 ;/ I want to say I got vamp tutor for 7 tics but my buddy who wanted one said it's more than 50 now on the bright side I think imperial seal is 5 maybe ?
[EDH] It's built to be a casual format and to a specific vision, and if you don't like the vision, there's nothing wrong with that, but it's not going to change to accommodate everyone. Big tent is not a goal.
Why are the digital cards so expensive? It's not like they can't "print" them again like paper magic - is it an artificial secondary market?
I don't play MTGO, honestly curious about this
If the digital cards weren't at least close to real world value it would have a seriously negative effect on the real world market.
Ah, that's a very good point.
Is there also a limit also to how many of each card they allow to exist at a given time? For example, can you go to the store and buy a bunch of Legends boosters?
[EDH] It's built to be a casual format and to a specific vision, and if you don't like the vision, there's nothing wrong with that, but it's not going to change to accommodate everyone. Big tent is not a goal.
Is there also a limit also to how many of each card they allow to exist at a given time? For example, can you go to the store and buy a bunch of Legends boosters?
You cannot buy any out of print boosters (usually). Sometimes there are oddities like the Commander 2011 decks still being available, but generally if it's not in standard, it is not for sale.
The reasons for the sometimes absurd prices of some of the cards is how they were introduced. The earliest set that is entirely online with its actual expansion symbol is Mirage. Additionally, only 7th edition forward of core sets is online. Anything before Mirage (so Duals, FoW, Sol Ring until the commander decks, Armageddon, a lot of tutors to name a few) are released one of two ways primarily - Masters Editions or MOCS Promos. There were 4 Masters Editions and were released with a reasonable space between them. The first 2 were ridiculously bad limited environments. Force of Will was long the most expensive card on MTGO (only the last year was it passed by LED and now by one version of the good old boy). FoW was only available in MED1 which was the least opened of the MED for various reasons (it was released when the client was worse than it is now and when the number of players was probably 1/5 or less the current MTGO users). MED2 had the allied duals, MED3 had the enemy. MED4 had all 10 duals and covered most of the significant missing cards. MED4 was the last MED to be made. For all 4 there was only a limited amount of time to purchase packs from the store and a limited number of events to play in. So they all have a scarcity due to their roll out.
A lot have been MOCS promos (FoW, LED and the duals each have, FoW is coming up for a second). There used to be a wide variance in the promos (Cryptborn Horror was it once, for instance) but lately it has been at least good cards (Batterskull was Feb.'s and it was duals before that). There are a number of estimates for each MOCS promo but the high profile ones are usually estimated to release ~300.
Similar to the reserved list, the two MTGO "promises" have caused issues. The two promises are : FoW would not appear in another MED after the 1st, and that the 4th MED was the last "Masters Edition". I put promises in quotes to begin because they are specific to Masters Editions. In other words either can still be kept even if Vintage Masters has FoW and duals (neither of which would surprise me).
Another note is that there are ~800 cards that are not online. If you have a specific card you love from pre-mirage, any portal set, or any core set prior to 7th, check to see if it is online. The most notable missing card outside of the power 9 (which are coming in June) is Cruel Bargain.
Long story short, prices are high because they are very scarce on MTGO.
Here are some numbers for references:
Duals range from 8 tickets to 55 (Plataeu to Tundra)
Demonic Tutor is 19-20.
Sol ring is ~2 tix.
Phyrexian Arena is ~5 tix.
Sad Robot is ~1.5 tix.
Most current mythics, if they see any play, are going to be more expensive online than paper due to redemption (Sphinx's Revelation is 33 online versus 20 in paper for instance). A good resource for pseudo comparing paper to online prices is mtggoldfish.com
Not that easy I don't think check mtgolibrary out. Unfortunately a lot if the prices have really spiked cards I got for 5 tics years ago are 50 but like any other investment you can always cash out. An optimized deck is no longer cheap but you can make a fairly good budget deck fur much less than in paper but IMO it's worth it to use the client and not trice
The price spikes are because the card is not available any more. Pernicious Deed was 25 tics when I last played MTGO, now it's closer to 90 (it was released right at the start of MTGO though, and there wasn't that many players around back then).
Is there a website I can plug my deck into and get an MTGO estimate?
Thanks.
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I don't play MTGO, honestly curious about this
If the digital cards weren't at least close to real world value it would have a seriously negative effect on the real world market.
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Ah, that's a very good point.
Is there also a limit also to how many of each card they allow to exist at a given time? For example, can you go to the store and buy a bunch of Legends boosters?
You cannot buy any out of print boosters (usually). Sometimes there are oddities like the Commander 2011 decks still being available, but generally if it's not in standard, it is not for sale.
The reasons for the sometimes absurd prices of some of the cards is how they were introduced. The earliest set that is entirely online with its actual expansion symbol is Mirage. Additionally, only 7th edition forward of core sets is online. Anything before Mirage (so Duals, FoW, Sol Ring until the commander decks, Armageddon, a lot of tutors to name a few) are released one of two ways primarily - Masters Editions or MOCS Promos. There were 4 Masters Editions and were released with a reasonable space between them. The first 2 were ridiculously bad limited environments. Force of Will was long the most expensive card on MTGO (only the last year was it passed by LED and now by one version of the good old boy). FoW was only available in MED1 which was the least opened of the MED for various reasons (it was released when the client was worse than it is now and when the number of players was probably 1/5 or less the current MTGO users). MED2 had the allied duals, MED3 had the enemy. MED4 had all 10 duals and covered most of the significant missing cards. MED4 was the last MED to be made. For all 4 there was only a limited amount of time to purchase packs from the store and a limited number of events to play in. So they all have a scarcity due to their roll out.
A lot have been MOCS promos (FoW, LED and the duals each have, FoW is coming up for a second). There used to be a wide variance in the promos (Cryptborn Horror was it once, for instance) but lately it has been at least good cards (Batterskull was Feb.'s and it was duals before that). There are a number of estimates for each MOCS promo but the high profile ones are usually estimated to release ~300.
Similar to the reserved list, the two MTGO "promises" have caused issues. The two promises are : FoW would not appear in another MED after the 1st, and that the 4th MED was the last "Masters Edition". I put promises in quotes to begin because they are specific to Masters Editions. In other words either can still be kept even if Vintage Masters has FoW and duals (neither of which would surprise me).
Another note is that there are ~800 cards that are not online. If you have a specific card you love from pre-mirage, any portal set, or any core set prior to 7th, check to see if it is online. The most notable missing card outside of the power 9 (which are coming in June) is Cruel Bargain.
Long story short, prices are high because they are very scarce on MTGO.
Here are some numbers for references:
Duals range from 8 tickets to 55 (Plataeu to Tundra)
Demonic Tutor is 19-20.
Sol ring is ~2 tix.
Phyrexian Arena is ~5 tix.
Sad Robot is ~1.5 tix.
Most current mythics, if they see any play, are going to be more expensive online than paper due to redemption (Sphinx's Revelation is 33 online versus 20 in paper for instance). A good resource for pseudo comparing paper to online prices is mtggoldfish.com
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The price spikes are because the card is not available any more. Pernicious Deed was 25 tics when I last played MTGO, now it's closer to 90 (it was released right at the start of MTGO though, and there wasn't that many players around back then).
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