mainly for multiplayer as i'm sure Lin sivvi is nice 1 vs 1 but is she good multiplayer.
I'll be playing against competitive Goblins and Slivers.
I'm on the ropes with Lin Sivvi (rebels), Darien King (soldiers), Jor Kadeen (artifact creatures n little white or red), Reaper King seem fun with allies and changelings. Euzuri (elves) ???? so what's fun in tribal?
Cards i'd like to cast (as a joke Hivestone one time to screw my buddy),
Sun titan, elspeth, stoneforge and stonehewer giant. which prob pushes hard to white deck. praetor's counsil, genesis wave triumph hordes seems fun too.
cauldron souls, coat of arms, gauntlet power, caged sun. many others but you can see the range of fun. Were not doing Azami/ mind over matter or earthcraft/ squirrel nest combos at all.
suggestions of type of tribe and how to abuse it would be ideal info I need.
I'm looking for fun with a bomby kinda feel. i've spend many hours searching all the creature types, this forum and decks.
let me include each color with what I'm looking at doing please include suggestions
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Black: Zombies: Vamps: Cabal coffers black ramp control speed with graveyard abuse.
White: Rebels, soldiers, knights. search for little equipment/artifact, all these could use calduron of souls, gauntlet power, coat of arms mirror entitny which goes in all tribal. Storm herd is pretty fun
Red: blank other than Jor...as i'm not doing Goblins. Giants prob fun?
Blue: i'm not doing Wizards too broken. I already have a Sh. imposter deck. and i'm not sure if I like merfolk in edh. Cool stuff like Pirates and ninjas are only few of.
Green: Elves would be fun but as stated I don't wanna drop little guys without abuse. I think Edric might be really good and political. if i'm dropping little guys I better be drawing lots of them fast. Beasts seem fun but slow.
So... someone persuade me with you're own tribal decks that have synergy and "bomby" fun stuff to play. also I have a Kalia deck so I can't do Dragons ect. I would like a blue white blink deck Venser, revilark maybe.
I think the EDH format rules supercede the card rules, and therefore no you can't.
Even if you could, I find it contrary to the spirit of EDH (one of each card except basic lands and Relentless Rats?!).
Lin Sivvi has a nice toolbox effect, but as someone who played Rebel White back in the day, the Rebel cardbase isn't terribly deep. Sure you can tutor out catapult or pro-red/black creatures, but... eh.
I'd like to push Darien as well. Tribal Soldiers is a lot of fun.
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I can't see why a person would refuse to play against a rats deck. Its not going to be any more powerful than even the weakest strategies in Edh. So if they want to play a boring deck and scoop after one wrath let them.
As for actual strategy I would say rats go best in BG for the synergy with bloodbond march for some great recursion.
For blue the new illusion lord works quite well with meloku the clouded mirror or you could run mistform ultimus with every single blue lord which is pretty sweet. If you go the meloku route feel free to send me a pm, I've been working on a decklist as of late.
I will also say Darien, King of Kjeldor soldier deck. Check out my sig for ideas if you wish.
It runs very well in a multiplayer setting. It also runs very well against generals like Uril, Zur, or Rafiq...so it's competitive....in a defensive sort of way.
Sygg, River Guide was really funny, you can play only merfolk and some wizards. You can do a Voltron deck with Sygg, a combo deck or beatdown deck. Just so versatile I really love it. The only thing block me for doing a deck with it, it's the problem with the swords:Sword of Fire and Ice, Sword of Light and Shadow etc... If you equip Sygg with one of this swords you cannot target it with his ability... :S
Tribal deck was hard to play in a EDH game because you didn't have a lot of good creature with the same type so not all the creature type was good. Only some was really playable; Sliver, Soldier, Zombie, Wizards, Merfolk, Elemental and Goblin but i didn't like Goblin Tribal EDH deck.
thanks for the info.
I'm gonna try Darien first... i'll hit some of you up if needed and thanks for the decklists info. I really like many of the options of other tribes. very juicy.
Darien because:
I wanna try a few funky things on the side such as, Ancient tombs, city of brass and that new commander acorn and stuffy doll. Anything else that is fun to damage yourself that is useful?
Evangelize: to steal a creature in white win-win. especially a hexproof Troll or Uril ect.
Hivestone: while I'll take it out after the first time I beat my buddies sliver head in that will be a very commander move. HA love it. Great suggestion and a bit easier to search with enlightened tutor.
power white tuck and fast removal of creatures, artifacts and enchantments. after all you have to be able to handle the board from time to time. I doubt i'll really do much board sweep as it's fairly unfun with the meta our tribal provides.
I don't remember the name.. I have the card though. time spiral set? Marshall anthem? Graveyard rec just in case I have a load of non token soldiers in yard.
reverse the sands, stonehewer giant, the join forces soldier card seems goofy but ehh, elspeth fits nicely. land tax, weathered wayfarer, endless horizons, rector, karma guide? , skullclamp, mimic vat, nim deathmantle? , helm of possesion, sun titan , emeria sky ruin, reya dawnbringer, elesh norn, ranger of eos, mirror entity. While some of this isn't soldier the majority will be with a small mix of few creatures to fit.
ALSO.... Can you play a tirbal LANDS Deck?? is that legal. say... Oracle of Mul daya deck but load it up with with many great lands? can you use urborg tomb of yawgmoth with her? or would I need to do 5 color general to play with all the colors of land?
There is no such thing as tribal lands due to the fact that tribal only refers to creature types traditionally. Although there is a Child of Alara deck floating around that is based around wrathing with child repeatedly while using as many man-lands as possible to beat down along with other cool land-based effects.
For Darien though run Zhalfirin Crusader due to his ability to redirect to you for more creatures or just to opponents. Personal Incarnation is also great as a beater that your opponents will not want to block by any means.
I can't see why a person would refuse to play against a rats deck. Its not going to be any more powerful than even the weakest strategies in Edh. So if they want to play a boring deck and scoop after one wrath let them.
I guess it's because I learned the game as Elder Dragon Highlander, with the Highlander specifically referring to 'no more than one of each card not a non-basic land'.
If the rules allow it, that's fine, but I'm not comfortable with it, and would prefer to avoid playing against such a deck whenver possible, the same as I would against an Infect or land destruction deck, although for reasons of ethics rather than power-level.
I think the EDH format rules supercede the card rules, and therefore no you can't.
Even if you could, I find it contrary to the spirit of EDH (one of each card except basic lands and Relentless Rats?!).
I'll be playing against competitive Goblins and Slivers.
I'm on the ropes with Lin Sivvi (rebels), Darien King (soldiers), Jor Kadeen (artifact creatures n little white or red), Reaper King seem fun with allies and changelings. Euzuri (elves) ???? so what's fun in tribal?
Cards i'd like to cast (as a joke Hivestone one time to screw my buddy),
Sun titan, elspeth, stoneforge and stonehewer giant. which prob pushes hard to white deck. praetor's counsil, genesis wave triumph hordes seems fun too.
cauldron souls, coat of arms, gauntlet power, caged sun. many others but you can see the range of fun. Were not doing Azami/ mind over matter or earthcraft/ squirrel nest combos at all.
suggestions of type of tribe and how to abuse it would be ideal info I need.
I'm looking for fun with a bomby kinda feel. i've spend many hours searching all the creature types, this forum and decks.
let me include each color with what I'm looking at doing please include suggestions
.
Black: Zombies: Vamps: Cabal coffers black ramp control speed with graveyard abuse.
White: Rebels, soldiers, knights. search for little equipment/artifact, all these could use calduron of souls, gauntlet power, coat of arms mirror entitny which goes in all tribal. Storm herd is pretty fun
Red: blank other than Jor...as i'm not doing Goblins. Giants prob fun?
Blue: i'm not doing Wizards too broken. I already have a Sh. imposter deck. and i'm not sure if I like merfolk in edh. Cool stuff like Pirates and ninjas are only few of.
Green: Elves would be fun but as stated I don't wanna drop little guys without abuse. I think Edric might be really good and political. if i'm dropping little guys I better be drawing lots of them fast. Beasts seem fun but slow.
So... someone persuade me with you're own tribal decks that have synergy and "bomby" fun stuff to play. also I have a Kalia deck so I can't do Dragons ect. I would like a blue white blink deck Venser, revilark maybe.
after seeing this i'm leaning white or jor.
EDH/Commander: Karn silver golem (foiled), Narset combo, Maelstrom Wanderer random goodies, Nekusar grixis draw stuff, freyalise, Gissa Zombies!, marchesa obliterate,
Prosh just wins!,
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EDH/Commander: Karn silver golem (foiled), Narset combo, Maelstrom Wanderer random goodies, Nekusar grixis draw stuff, freyalise, Gissa Zombies!, marchesa obliterate,
Prosh just wins!,
--- Will WOTC just visit Cybertron already! ----
Even if you could, I find it contrary to the spirit of EDH (one of each card except basic lands and Relentless Rats?!).
Lin Sivvi has a nice toolbox effect, but as someone who played Rebel White back in the day, the Rebel cardbase isn't terribly deep. Sure you can tutor out catapult or pro-red/black creatures, but... eh.
Soldiers is an incredibly deep tribe with cool stuff like Field Marshal, Daru Warchief, Mobilization and Militia's Pride among others.
Elves, Goblins and Vampires have strong Tribal interactions, Horde of Notions with Elementals can be pretty crazy.
Thraximundar Control voltron
Darien, King of Dudes The swarm
Karador, Ghost ChieftainJunk graveyard
Erebos, God of the DeadMy BIG BLACK.......deck
Zedruu the kindhearted My take on Pristaxcontrombmodruu!
Roon of the Hidden Realm Bounce house
W Avacyn, Angel of Hope|U Azami, Lady of Scrolls|B | Ob Nixilis, the Fallen|R Daretti, Scrap Savant|G Ezuri, Renegade Leader|WUBrago, King Eternal|UB Grimgrin, Corpse-born|BR Wort, Boggart Auntie|RG Ulasht, the Hate Seed|GW Captain Sisay|WB Ghost Council of Orzhova|BG Glissa, the Traitor|GU Experiment Kraj|UR Melek, Izzet Paragon
RW Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer|WBR Kaalia of the Vast|GWB Ghave, Guru of Spores|UBR Marchesa, the Black Rose
Retired
WDarien, King of Kjeldor|R Jaya Ballard, Task Mage|R Norin the Wary|GB Momir Vig, Simic Visionary|WUBRG Sliver Overlord
As for actual strategy I would say rats go best in BG for the synergy with bloodbond march for some great recursion.
For blue the new illusion lord works quite well with meloku the clouded mirror or you could run mistform ultimus with every single blue lord which is pretty sweet. If you go the meloku route feel free to send me a pm, I've been working on a decklist as of late.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=307453
It runs very well in a multiplayer setting. It also runs very well against generals like Uril, Zur, or Rafiq...so it's competitive....in a defensive sort of way.
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Tribal deck was hard to play in a EDH game because you didn't have a lot of good creature with the same type so not all the creature type was good. Only some was really playable; Sliver, Soldier, Zombie, Wizards, Merfolk, Elemental and Goblin but i didn't like Goblin Tribal EDH deck.
WBGhost Council of OrzhovaBW
GUBThe MimeoplasmBUG
RGWort, the RaidmotherGR
UGRRiku of Two ReflectionsRGU
Casual
WGBJunkStone DeckBGW
BMonoBlack VampireB
I'm gonna try Darien first... i'll hit some of you up if needed and thanks for the decklists info. I really like many of the options of other tribes. very juicy.
Darien because:
I wanna try a few funky things on the side such as, Ancient tombs, city of brass and that new commander acorn and stuffy doll. Anything else that is fun to damage yourself that is useful?
Evangelize: to steal a creature in white win-win. especially a hexproof Troll or Uril ect.
Hivestone: while I'll take it out after the first time I beat my buddies sliver head in that will be a very commander move. HA love it. Great suggestion and a bit easier to search with enlightened tutor.
power white tuck and fast removal of creatures, artifacts and enchantments. after all you have to be able to handle the board from time to time. I doubt i'll really do much board sweep as it's fairly unfun with the meta our tribal provides.
I don't remember the name.. I have the card though. time spiral set? Marshall anthem? Graveyard rec just in case I have a load of non token soldiers in yard.
reverse the sands, stonehewer giant, the join forces soldier card seems goofy but ehh, elspeth fits nicely. land tax, weathered wayfarer, endless horizons, rector, karma guide? , skullclamp, mimic vat, nim deathmantle? , helm of possesion, sun titan , emeria sky ruin, reya dawnbringer, elesh norn, ranger of eos, mirror entity. While some of this isn't soldier the majority will be with a small mix of few creatures to fit.
ALSO.... Can you play a tirbal LANDS Deck?? is that legal. say... Oracle of Mul daya deck but load it up with with many great lands? can you use urborg tomb of yawgmoth with her? or would I need to do 5 color general to play with all the colors of land?
Thanks again Salvation peeps.
EDH/Commander: Karn silver golem (foiled), Narset combo, Maelstrom Wanderer random goodies, Nekusar grixis draw stuff, freyalise, Gissa Zombies!, marchesa obliterate,
Prosh just wins!,
--- Will WOTC just visit Cybertron already! ----
For Darien though run Zhalfirin Crusader due to his ability to redirect to you for more creatures or just to opponents. Personal Incarnation is also great as a beater that your opponents will not want to block by any means.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=307453
I guess it's because I learned the game as Elder Dragon Highlander, with the Highlander specifically referring to 'no more than one of each card not a non-basic land'.
If the rules allow it, that's fine, but I'm not comfortable with it, and would prefer to avoid playing against such a deck whenver possible, the same as I would against an Infect or land destruction deck, although for reasons of ethics rather than power-level.
Relentless Rats supercedes the EDH rules. You can find the ruling here straight from Sheldon: http://forum.dragonhighlander.net/EDH_Forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=127&start=17
Besides, I've run into multiple rats decks on MTGO therefore it must be legal. You Can't break the rules on MTGO