In my experience, CSH isn't great in a dual colored deck because early game I almost always pick the wrong color and late game I don't want CIPT mana sources. I would prefer another basic land.
I bring up CSH because I just re-read the S symbol: snow PERMANENT. I thought it was only snow land. CSH can pay for Scrying Sheets, which does best in a monocolored deck with the land support (especially since white and red have limited card advantage options relative to the other colors).
I just wonder if anyone uses CSH or any of the diamonds for any number of color decks. Again, I'm no fan of CIPT cards (unless I have an Amulet of Vigor in the deck), but CSH at least serves that extra purpose. Maybe colored mana isn't that important to you and Mind Stone fits that spot better. That's what I want to know.
I like it in artifact heavy Mono-Blue decks. It's not the most amazing mana accelerator, but when you want as many 1-3 cost mana-rocks it's fine and when you need to cast Azami, Gather Specimen, Blatant Thievery, Future Sight, Mind Over Matter, etc it sucks missing the heavy blue. Then there is also the snow factor which is a bonus.
If I was looking for color fixing I would skip it. It's really just a semi-solid redundancy for early artifact acceleration.
i think i could run coldsteel heart in a two color deck with alot of double mana costs and if neither of the two colors were green. although there are a slew of cards i would run first, wayfarer's bauble, armilliary sphere, darksteel ingot, solemn simulacrum, maybe even pilgrim's eye.
In my experience, CSH isn't great in a dual colored deck because early game I almost always pick the wrong color and late game I don't want CIPT mana sources. I would prefer another basic land.
I bring up CSH because I just re-read the S symbol: snow PERMANENT. I thought it was only snow land. CSH can pay for Scrying Sheets, which does best in a monocolored deck with the land support (especially since white and red have limited card advantage options relative to the other colors).
I just wonder if anyone uses CSH or any of the diamonds for any number of color decks. Again, I'm no fan of CIPT cards (unless I have an Amulet of Vigor in the deck), but CSH at least serves that extra purpose. Maybe colored mana isn't that important to you and Mind Stone fits that spot better. That's what I want to know.
The fact that it's snow mana is incredibly insignificant. If you are running Scrying Sheets, you're running all of your basics as Snow Basics to support it, right? That means you're running minimum 20, probably up to 30 or even 35 Snow Basics in the deck. The chances that you have Scrying Sheets, Coldsteel Heart, another non-Snow land, and no Snows lands in play is low to impossible.
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I like the diamonds and Coldsteel Heart in one and 2 color decks. When I started looking into EDH at first, I was trying to play with Sol Grail until I found the heart. Quicker decks are probably not going to like the CitPT, but if you're using the mana rocks to subsidize your land totals, the 2 CMC is quite nice.
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The way my Kiki-Jiki deck is built, it doesn't do too much for the first three turns. For this reason, getting any two-drop manastone in my opening hand is basically a timewalk, so I play lots of them. Coldsteel Heart isn't the best, but when there are only 6 playable two-drops (listed below) it makes the cut.
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The Heart is most playable in a monocolour deck because you don't have access to signets, which are basically strictly better.
As for the snow thing, it's only use is as an enabler for Mouth of Ronom if you want to play the Mouth, but want prettier lands than snow-covered Mountains.
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I might as well call this topic a six-card discussion as CSH is so close to the diamond cycle (Fire Diamond, Charcoal Diamond, Marble Diamond, Moss Diamond, Sky Diamond).
In my experience, CSH isn't great in a dual colored deck because early game I almost always pick the wrong color and late game I don't want CIPT mana sources. I would prefer another basic land.
I bring up CSH because I just re-read the S symbol: snow PERMANENT. I thought it was only snow land. CSH can pay for Scrying Sheets, which does best in a monocolored deck with the land support (especially since white and red have limited card advantage options relative to the other colors).
I just wonder if anyone uses CSH or any of the diamonds for any number of color decks. Again, I'm no fan of CIPT cards (unless I have an Amulet of Vigor in the deck), but CSH at least serves that extra purpose. Maybe colored mana isn't that important to you and Mind Stone fits that spot better. That's what I want to know.
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I would play it in WBR, possibly. Going from 2 to 4 is nice, and there isn't much that wedge cares about playing on turn 2.
Overall I'm not sold, though.
If I was looking for color fixing I would skip it. It's really just a semi-solid redundancy for early artifact acceleration.
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if you care more about fixing i think id run something like prismatic lens or prophetic prism
i think i could run coldsteel heart in a two color deck with alot of double mana costs and if neither of the two colors were green. although there are a slew of cards i would run first, wayfarer's bauble, armilliary sphere, darksteel ingot, solemn simulacrum, maybe even pilgrim's eye.
The fact that it's snow mana is incredibly insignificant. If you are running Scrying Sheets, you're running all of your basics as Snow Basics to support it, right? That means you're running minimum 20, probably up to 30 or even 35 Snow Basics in the deck. The chances that you have Scrying Sheets, Coldsteel Heart, another non-Snow land, and no Snows lands in play is low to impossible.
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As for the snow thing, it's only use is as an enabler for Mouth of Ronom if you want to play the Mouth, but want prettier lands than snow-covered Mountains.