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My fav land? Definitely Miren, the Moaning Well. It was always good times when this came into play. It gains you life(I know life gain is for noobs but I like it), its a sac engine, and its pretty. I used to use it with Debtor's Knell and Kokusho and possibly Goryo's Vengeance(if it was in hand). Occasionally I'd take a Wrong Turn and forget it was in play. >.<
Were their parrot's screeching in the background? Seriously, it sounded like one of you was in a bird cage?
Great show though guys.
My favorite land of all time is: Elephant Graveyard.
I pulled one out of a pack of Arabian Nights and thought it was the coolest thing ever. I looked around for elephants to play and every time a new expansion came out I scanned it for elephants... Can you imagine my excitement with Lorwyn? With Changelings, my Elephant Graveyard and Swarmyard ( a.k.a. Elephant Graveyard II) Finally do something useful(ish)
Play the Mirror Gallery and target it with the Animate Artifact, and thus it is a 5/5 artifact creature WITH ITS ABILITIES.
Then play your "non-combo", and Titania's Song is unable to strip the 5/5 Mirror GalleryCreature of its ability.
So you'll have a 5/5 creature with the ability "The Legend Rule doesn't Apply", and can have both 1,000,000/1,000,000 Gleemax Creatures in play.
As far as my favorite land, it has to be Terramorphic Expanse. Not only is it a perfect low budget mana fixer, But it thins out your deck, and if you throw in a Rings of Brighthearth you can thin out 2 lands for 2 mana.
I also love Desert, Mouth of Ronom and Quicksand. I love lands that have effects other than mana, especially when they assist with creature control.
Open Water.
One other thing, Gavin, Augur of Skulls wasn't in Fifth Dawn, It was in Future Sight.
I must say that my favorite land of all time is probably Dark Depths. Why? Who doesn't enjoy getting a 20/20 flying black indestructible avatar creature token named Marit Lage? Sure, it may not produce mana, and it takes 30 mana to get that monster. But hey, who doesn't need a nice mana sink that occasionally just wins the game on turn four? Not even the Cloverfield monster could drop this monster. And hey, who doesn't want to pair this up with a nice foily Contested Cliffs.
Also, I just want everybody to know exactly how fun it is to play Liliana and Jace together as finishers in a U/B EvokeControl deck. Soooo much fun drawing with Jace and then making them discard. Or tutoring with Liliana and drawing with Jace. Or milling with Jace and then reanimating.
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I have been screaming for 2 years about how there should be a land that allows you to channel a different color mana and have 2 mana of the other color. I entered it into various create a card contests, and always failed. I called them spreadlands to give the flavor and effect of one land flavor spreading across another's. When future sight spoilers started to pop up, I seen Nimbus Maze and started screaming "They almost got it right!!!" then I seen Graven Cairns and was like "THATS IT!! ONLY BETTER!!"
Now we just need the rest of the cycle so I can use 4 of them in a UW control deck. Nimbus maze is fail.
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Don't know if you guys saw the latest update on MTGO, but it's looking like Version III won't be up until the mid-end of March.
I'm glad they decided to Release Morningtide on V 2.5. I would hate to have to wait for them to debug V. III before getting to play Morningtide Leagues.
Any predictions on when V.III will be up? I'm thinking early April, but then again I'm not really the optimistic type.
EDIT: What's replacing the Mirror Universe as the 75 Post Prize?
Gigelf's right.. i think, then the combo would work, YAY!!
favorite land is tough.. most of the oldies from when the game first came out are golden (yea.. i know), personaly i like land art more then its ability...but thats just my opinion
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale really stands out for me. And i know u guys mentioned it, as well as a bunch of other people. But something about a mist shrouded chapellike building with a kickbutt ability takes the cake
BUTBoseiju, Who Shelters All is even better, because unlike the Tabernacle, it takes the...thingy above the cake, which is..ugh... better then the cake. Yea, thats it, *yumm*
The Boseiju reminds me of Unstoppable Ash..which as we all know IS SO MUCH UNSTOPABLE (its a long story.. though i do miss the guy) so, all in all, tree's are generally pretty cool things, *GO FORESTS*
though as awesome as boseiju is.. not even it could stop me from wanting 2 hours back of my life after watching Shrek 2... sorry, but it was just soooo bad.. American humor is rarely THAT funny..(try the british :))
Ah..... Good 'ol Boseiju, Who Makes Blue Cry. (And coincidentally gets around Dovescape!)
I thought he said that, but wasn't that off the back of Tom mentioning Fifth Dawn in his utterance before.
Though hearing it, i only really heard the Ffff... and was "huh,wah,uh" but then the combo was cool so i got distracted.
Personally i'd like that combo with Emberwilde Augur. Though, i guess for the mana you could've always play a burn spell anyway... still it would be cooler.
Between my generally poor speaking skills, the static of the podcast, and the mysteriously labeled "Tom effect", It could have really have been realistically sounded like anything from Future Sight to Koopa Fight. I've already received multiple angry e-mails from higher ups who misunderstood the word that I said and are asking how I managed to know the name of the 2009 Magic block.
favorite land card eh...
mines gonna be goblin burrows because of all the fun i had when i started playing using it with spikeshot goblin. i remember pinging for 3 a turn got me really excited.
The one land that means the most to me is Rhystic Cave. I first saw it when my brother bought some packs of Prophecy, Exodus, and Visions "for fun" because he just heard about the game. I was only 10 then and only knew how to play Pokemon, so I had no clue how to play Magic. Rhystic Cave was the only land he received from the boosters, and thus it was only land I saw until three years later. I knew there was something called "mana" and, since it was the only card with such an ability, I guessed it only came from lands. I was, though, more intrigued by the art, the card frame, and the flavor text. The card picture was beautiful (as I thought with many of the other cards my brother opened, but especially this), and I noticed the glints of hue upon the crystals, getting a slight understanding of where the mana comes from. The flavor text really did it for me. "All mages dip into the same well; some are just in more of a hurry." The concepts of mages and them drawing mana from the well made me realize that Magic was a battle of wizards who draw their power from the land.
Of course, now I understand that Rhystic Cave is quite underpowered, and I have it now since my brother never got into Magic, but still, whenever I'm building a deck and come across it in the back of my land pile, I hesitate for a moment, pondering for a second whether or not I should add it.
While the State's thing doesn't apply to me (a casual player), It still does suck. Most of my constructed friends really enjoy them. I personally think They're trying to push MTGO for competive scence... but that's just me.
Thank guys, I always love telling that story :D. I added Proper burial to the combo to gain 2 mil life.
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Another great show this week... though I do miss Dom. Things have been rather negative since he left too... with all of the organize play changes happening. We need an awesome news week.
For my fave land, I'm going to dig back to the old school. Maze of Ith was the most awesome land back at the casual table. It would usually lock one person out of combat and make the guys with out one take the damage. It was such a great card to have on the table. There are a ton of lands since then that I'd consider better/more useful/maybe even new favorites, but the Maze of Ith made too much of an early impact to not get the nod here.
Hm, my favorite land... To tell you the truth, my favorite is Mountain Valley, from Mirage, for no reason whatsoever other than the very nice art on it...
Good show as usual, guys. Tom sounded a little garbled at times, but everything was solid content-wise.
Land-wise, I'd have to say Winding Canyons is an old favorite of mine. Here's why:
As any combo player in a group setting knows, once your deck is recognized, you really have only one or two turns to go off. Even if all you have in play are basic lands, if they match your combo and someone recognizes it, it's "Oh, that deck again. Everyone, listen. He'll go off next turn or the one after. Kill him now."
I had this problem with a deck that used Phyrexian Altar, Mortuary, Fecundity, and Ornithopter to fuel an arbitrarily large Fireball. Adding the Winding Canyons and changing the Fireball and Altar to Goblin Bombardment allowed me to go off on someone else's turn, and changed up the combo enough that it wasn't recognized as quickly. However, the deck was retired and dismantled after it "won" a 8-player game and the group consensus was that they'd rather just say I won and keep playing than start over. Three hours of not playing later, I'd learned not to play combo in large groups.
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The original was awesome, but the sequel is so bad. Two hours of my life that I really do want back.
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Thank you very much for the Mirror Universe guys! I actually played against one of those Monday night. After City Champs, we tend to cube draft for fun, and one of my cohorts had one on the table pretty much every game.
I'm gonna go with the Unhinged Island as my favorite land, followed closely by the other Unhinged and Unglued lands. They don't do anything special, but they sure do look nice.
Snakes on a Plane. I thought it would be so bad, it's good. You know, kind of a cult classic you can laugh at? Not even close. Painful. Gotta go scrub my eyeballs now.
My favorite land of all time has got to be the basic Island. I know that sounds kind of lame but...I have consistantly gone out of my way to include U in every deck I have ever played.
I have been playing forever and I have been playing permission decks since day 1. When I started playing magic...neither my friends or myself really knew how to play. We played with tons of house rules that vastly altered the way the game was to be played. So what we did was we each took a main color and a secondary color and whenever we opened packs...that person would get that card. Well, I chose U as my main color and W as my secondary. After about a month of buying packs we all had pretty good decks put together. Then they started to notice a pattern...my counterspell deck kept winning. So they added a new rule, I wasn't allowed to play counterspells. My counterspell lineup was as follows: Counterspell, Mana Drain, Power Sink, Spell Burst, and Force Spike. They really didn't like the idea that I was able to counter everything. Its kind of funny because after I finally agreed that I wouldn't play counterspells...I switched over to play UW control which consisted of bounce, Magical Hack, and Circle of Protections. Then they couldn't beat that deck. They actually considered telling me that I wasn't allowed to play basic Islands in a deck. This left me open to play Tundra and Adarkar Waste...but I talked them out of it by pretty much dropping U altogether...only keeping a few Islands in the deck.
If for some reason my basic Island doesn't make the cut for favorite land...my second favorite land is Tabernacle at the Pendrell Vale. This was the first non-basic lands that I opened. At first I was rather skeptical...then as you saw in my story above...I concocted a creature-lite deck and it worked out great.
When I first started playing we used to have sleep overs and we would play magic all night long. Well my buddies parents were movie nuts and they had Blockbuster in their living room. Well it seemed like every time we stayed the night we watched Dick Tracey. The first time I saw the movie I hated it. The 900th time I saw the movie...I was actually wishing I was deaf. So without saying anything else...I think its safe to say that absolutely despise the movie Dick Tracey.
Great show guys. Glad Derek is back. In fact, an epic show. Much better than Epic Movie.
Lake of the Dead is my favorite land ever. It was a powerhouse in LauerPotence, pumping out huge Drain Lifes, pump knights, and Necros. Not to mention the art, which is absolutely insane. The dead bodies floating past and the monolithic structure in the background as well as the great name are just gravy.
Another good one is Treetop Village. It's an ape. Who knew?
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To be stupid, and selfish, and to have good health are the three requirements for happiness; though if stupidity is lacking, the others are useless."
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My favorite land of all time has got to be Blinkmoth Nexus. The sheer power and finishing capacity that this land is capable of in Affinity never ceases to amaze me. Its a good land on its own, but in Affinity.... wow...
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In what universe? If you build a deck like that, and ever draw that hand, I will personally come to wherever you live, perform complicated acts of awestruck ********, then disembowel myself to escape the world that allowed something like to to occur and validate you.
My favorite land of all time is Arena, mostly for the fact that my name is...drumroll... Chris Arena. Yes, cheesy, but when i first started playing I was about 12, and man, it was cool that a card had my name. Of course, I had to build a deck around the card (deckname? Arena's Arena, naturally), and as I got better and better at magic, Arena's Arena also evolved, becoming a decently competetive deck as far as casual decks go.
So that's my story. I quit Magic about 7 years ago and then started playing again (solely on MODO) about a year or so ago, and it cracked me up when they bough back Arena, and then created Magus of the Arena. Thanks for the "welcome back" presents, WotC! Unfortunately, I no longer play casual and haven't yet created Arena's Arena v2.0, but it won't be long.
My favorite land of all time is Island of Wak-Wak. Back when Arabian Nights was first released my brother and I used to play big fatty creatures with our friends--Serra Angel, Sengir Vampire, etc. And our favorite: Attack with a 1/1 Scryb Sprite then Giant Growth the Sprite twice and then Berserk him twice. Remember, this was the time before cards were band so it wasn't unusual to play a chaos multi-player game and have three or four Berserks hit the table at once. I remember when a friend attacked my brother with his Scryb Sprite and through a bunch of Giant Growths on him and others dropped their Berserks beefing the Sprite up to 48 power! Unfortunately (for my brother's opponent), he forgot that my brother had the Island of Wak-Wak out so my brother tapped it and used its ability to make the Sprites power--0! All my brother's opponent got out of the attack was a huge Sprite that died. Everyone at the table loved the play! I hadn't seen my friend who attacked so upset since I recently saw people wanting their money back after seeing that horrible flick Ultraviolet.
Viva Woapalanne!
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Great show though guys.
My favorite land of all time is: Elephant Graveyard.
I pulled one out of a pack of Arabian Nights and thought it was the coolest thing ever. I looked around for elephants to play and every time a new expansion came out I scanned it for elephants... Can you imagine my excitement with Lorwyn? With Changelings, my Elephant Graveyard and Swarmyard ( a.k.a. Elephant Graveyard II) Finally do something useful(ish)
WUBRGPauper Battle BoxWUBRG ... and why I am not a fan of Wayne Reynolds' Illustrations.
Good ears Galspanic and Gavin does have some sort of large bird and it's name is Rocket.
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Add in a Mirror Gallery and an Animate Artifact.
Play the Mirror Gallery and target it with the Animate Artifact, and thus it is a 5/5 artifact creature WITH ITS ABILITIES.
Then play your "non-combo", and Titania's Song is unable to strip the 5/5 Mirror Gallery Creature of its ability.
So you'll have a 5/5 creature with the ability "The Legend Rule doesn't Apply", and can have both 1,000,000/1,000,000 Gleemax Creatures in play.
As far as my favorite land, it has to be Terramorphic Expanse. Not only is it a perfect low budget mana fixer, But it thins out your deck, and if you throw in a Rings of Brighthearth you can thin out 2 lands for 2 mana.
I also love Desert, Mouth of Ronom and Quicksand. I love lands that have effects other than mana, especially when they assist with creature control.
Open Water.
One other thing, Gavin, Augur of Skulls wasn't in Fifth Dawn, It was in Future Sight.
Also, I just want everybody to know exactly how fun it is to play Liliana and Jace together as finishers in a U/B EvokeControl deck. Soooo much fun drawing with Jace and then making them discard. Or tutoring with Liliana and drawing with Jace. Or milling with Jace and then reanimating.
I have been screaming for 2 years about how there should be a land that allows you to channel a different color mana and have 2 mana of the other color. I entered it into various create a card contests, and always failed. I called them spreadlands to give the flavor and effect of one land flavor spreading across another's. When future sight spoilers started to pop up, I seen Nimbus Maze and started screaming "They almost got it right!!!" then I seen Graven Cairns and was like "THATS IT!! ONLY BETTER!!"
Now we just need the rest of the cycle so I can use 4 of them in a UW control deck. Nimbus maze is fail.
Current Decks:
Mono W Soldier Tribal
U splash B Pickles Teachings
MGA Haste & Force
I'm glad they decided to Release Morningtide on V 2.5. I would hate to have to wait for them to debug V. III before getting to play Morningtide Leagues.
Any predictions on when V.III will be up? I'm thinking early April, but then again I'm not really the optimistic type.
EDIT: What's replacing the Mirror Universe as the 75 Post Prize?
Ah..... Good 'ol Boseiju, Who Makes Blue Cry. (And coincidentally gets around Dovescape!)
Between my generally poor speaking skills, the static of the podcast, and the mysteriously labeled "Tom effect", It could have really have been realistically sounded like anything from Future Sight to Koopa Fight. I've already received multiple angry e-mails from higher ups who misunderstood the word that I said and are asking how I managed to know the name of the 2009 Magic block.
mines gonna be goblin burrows because of all the fun i had when i started playing using it with spikeshot goblin. i remember pinging for 3 a turn got me really excited.
I wish the original dual lands had flavor text, because then they would truly be the best dual lands ever.
Of course, now I understand that Rhystic Cave is quite underpowered, and I have it now since my brother never got into Magic, but still, whenever I'm building a deck and come across it in the back of my land pile, I hesitate for a moment, pondering for a second whether or not I should add it.
Thank guys, I always love telling that story :D. I added Proper burial to the combo to gain 2 mil life.
Modern:
Burn
8-Racks
Brewing:
Modern Haakon
Modern 20-Ones
Legacy Meathooks
For my fave land, I'm going to dig back to the old school. Maze of Ith was the most awesome land back at the casual table. It would usually lock one person out of combat and make the guys with out one take the damage. It was such a great card to have on the table. There are a ton of lands since then that I'd consider better/more useful/maybe even new favorites, but the Maze of Ith made too much of an early impact to not get the nod here.
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Land-wise, I'd have to say Winding Canyons is an old favorite of mine. Here's why:
As any combo player in a group setting knows, once your deck is recognized, you really have only one or two turns to go off. Even if all you have in play are basic lands, if they match your combo and someone recognizes it, it's "Oh, that deck again. Everyone, listen. He'll go off next turn or the one after. Kill him now."
I had this problem with a deck that used Phyrexian Altar, Mortuary, Fecundity, and Ornithopter to fuel an arbitrarily large Fireball. Adding the Winding Canyons and changing the Fireball and Altar to Goblin Bombardment allowed me to go off on someone else's turn, and changed up the combo enough that it wasn't recognized as quickly. However, the deck was retired and dismantled after it "won" a 8-player game and the group consensus was that they'd rather just say I won and keep playing than start over. Three hours of not playing later, I'd learned not to play combo in large groups.
http://imdb.com/title/tt0338763/
The original was awesome, but the sequel is so bad. Two hours of my life that I really do want back.
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Favorite cards of all time:
Overall - Peacekeeper
Flavor text - Blazing Archon
I'm gonna go with the Unhinged Island as my favorite land, followed closely by the other Unhinged and Unglued lands. They don't do anything special, but they sure do look nice.
Snakes on a Plane. I thought it would be so bad, it's good. You know, kind of a cult classic you can laugh at? Not even close. Painful. Gotta go scrub my eyeballs now.
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I have been playing forever and I have been playing permission decks since day 1. When I started playing magic...neither my friends or myself really knew how to play. We played with tons of house rules that vastly altered the way the game was to be played. So what we did was we each took a main color and a secondary color and whenever we opened packs...that person would get that card. Well, I chose U as my main color and W as my secondary. After about a month of buying packs we all had pretty good decks put together. Then they started to notice a pattern...my counterspell deck kept winning. So they added a new rule, I wasn't allowed to play counterspells. My counterspell lineup was as follows: Counterspell, Mana Drain, Power Sink, Spell Burst, and Force Spike. They really didn't like the idea that I was able to counter everything. Its kind of funny because after I finally agreed that I wouldn't play counterspells...I switched over to play UW control which consisted of bounce, Magical Hack, and Circle of Protections. Then they couldn't beat that deck. They actually considered telling me that I wasn't allowed to play basic Islands in a deck. This left me open to play Tundra and Adarkar Waste...but I talked them out of it by pretty much dropping U altogether...only keeping a few Islands in the deck.
If for some reason my basic Island doesn't make the cut for favorite land...my second favorite land is Tabernacle at the Pendrell Vale. This was the first non-basic lands that I opened. At first I was rather skeptical...then as you saw in my story above...I concocted a creature-lite deck and it worked out great.
When I first started playing we used to have sleep overs and we would play magic all night long. Well my buddies parents were movie nuts and they had Blockbuster in their living room. Well it seemed like every time we stayed the night we watched Dick Tracey. The first time I saw the movie I hated it. The 900th time I saw the movie...I was actually wishing I was deaf. So without saying anything else...I think its safe to say that absolutely despise the movie Dick Tracey.
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Lake of the Dead is my favorite land ever. It was a powerhouse in LauerPotence, pumping out huge Drain Lifes, pump knights, and Necros. Not to mention the art, which is absolutely insane. The dead bodies floating past and the monolithic structure in the background as well as the great name are just gravy.
Another good one is Treetop Village. It's an ape. Who knew?
To be stupid, and selfish, and to have good health are the three requirements for happiness; though if stupidity is lacking, the others are useless."
-Gustave Flaubert
My favorite land of all time has got to be Blinkmoth Nexus. The sheer power and finishing capacity that this land is capable of in Affinity never ceases to amaze me. Its a good land on its own, but in Affinity.... wow...
Standard:
GWU Bant Control
GRB Jund Ramp
GW Overrun
Extended:
0 Affinity
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So that's my story. I quit Magic about 7 years ago and then started playing again (solely on MODO) about a year or so ago, and it cracked me up when they bough back Arena, and then created Magus of the Arena. Thanks for the "welcome back" presents, WotC! Unfortunately, I no longer play casual and haven't yet created Arena's Arena v2.0, but it won't be long.
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