I'm going on record right now and stating that before the end of 2012 we will see foil dual lands in booster packs (The real, Alpha dual lands). You can quote me on that.
Sounds like they are cornering the 4" figure market. Hasbro has been putting these out religiously for decades. From gi Joe to marvel to starwars, all have been hasbro. So it makes perfect sense from a standpoint to buy the company that has been putting out the toys for there newly aquired medias. I wouldn't be surprised if they bought darkhorse as well. We have already seen crossgen, most of chaos, and a good portion of top cow bought by marvel (sans lady death which Disney actually had bought the rights for late 90's). A darkhorse merger wouldn't be unthought off. Will it happen, who knows, but it sounds like Disney is trying to package all there medias together into a streamlined network of companies owned by Disney.
A brother's war movie would only ever be made if the fall set for that year was set on dominaria, and it was recognizable across the movie and cards. Maybe even like the Lotr ccg, where the art is snapshots from the film(s).
I am curious why disney is buying so much stuff. As long as they keep the quality up, then it makes no difference.
It makes some sense. Hasbro's action figure production power has to be something they are interested in now that they will have Lucasfilm. Additionally, D&D/Magic cover a broad swath of fantasy media. I remember hearing (I don't know from where) that they were interested in acquiring fantasy franchise rights back when they had the possibility of adding a Harry Potter world to one of their theme parks. If they get Hasbro, they cover several content and demographic bases.
Let's face it--Disney has never really had a lot to offer the adolescent-young adult male demographic. With Star Wars and WoTC, they've got some serious gunpowder in that fight.
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Is this really confirmed?
WOTC in the hands of Disney?
It's just talks. That means that if anything were to actually occur it would go through a couple of years of contract drafts and so on. No major acquisition is quick. I am sure the Star Wars purchase has been in the talks ever since they initially started redoing the Star-Tours ride. I wouldn't expect to see any purchase of Hasbro for at least 3 or so years if Disney wanted to purchase them right this instance. I'd gather that Disney is now interested in collecting nerd culture under 1 roof in order to do as they please and even more so literally print money more so than they already do.
Disney already has a line of MTG-style cards that players collect at the parks, so MTG could easily work into what they already have going on. I'd be pretty excited about this.
Wasn't there already an MTG tie in to a Disney movie? Sorcerer's Apprentice or something?
I wouldn't ready too much into this .. yet. Like others have mentioned, Disney bought Marvel, and I didn't notice anything Disney-ish at all about the Avengers. Other properties they've purchased don't seem to be terribly affected by them either. Okay, maybe Disney stuff gets pushed a little on ABC, but it's not like Goofy has a regular spot on Sportscenter or whatever.
But if anybody could defend against the likely onslaught of lawsuits that may or may not result from abolishing the reserved list, I bet Disney could. But would they? Sure, they could make some quick cash, but it would dry up fast. And who knows what the ramifications would be long term?
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Currently playing:
Standard: Superfriends!
Legacy: Nic Fit / Pod
Pauper: Delvar; Tron; Flicker Stuff
Commander: Riku ("Some weird doubple spell thing happened"); Keranos ("I did a Gatherer search for 'random' and 'flip a coin.'"); Superfriends!
1) Disney buys Hasbro for G.I. Joe, Transformers, My Little Pony, etc., and spins WotC off into its own IPO. From an MTG perspective this is the boring option since it probably means nothing particularly meaningful happens to the game except that it probably WOULD die in a couple years if WotC doesn't cut D&D altogether.
Cutting Kaijudo and all the other failed products would do the same thing. D&D is trying to repair its reputation as the leading tabletop products after 4th tanked and Paizo laughed all the way to the bank. D&D Next is looking fantastic so far and so I'd reserve judgment about cutting it until after it finishes development.
2) Disney decides to keep WotC in the buyout. This is the interesting option, since it means so much more in terms of cool new developments. The obvious possibility is an MTG movie... though it'd probably be about Jace and Company rather than picking one of Magic's more interesting storylines, like The Brothers' War or Ravnica: City of Guilds simply because those storylines are so old. They'd be much more likely to tie a movie into a set release. The less obvious stuff comes from the fact that new owners may mean revisiting old decisions. Decisions like "there will never be a D&D-themed Magic set, and there will never be an official Magic RPG", or "we're keeping the Reserved List and no, we're not talking about it". Disney also has a LOT of media production capacity (and a lot of advanced production capacity), so as technical points go this may mean improved production values on the game's art, better art direction, better print quality, and maybe even new ways to pimp out cards that couldn't have been done before due to insufficient technology or excessive cost.
I think a Disney buyout would be more and less exciting than people think. More exciting because the budget for everything would likely increase and so everything from design to R&D to organized play would improve. Less exciting because they are not likely to force Wizards to revisit old Magic storylines as fodder for films. For better or worse, Jace and company are the faces of the game now and any new media produced will feature them. If I were a Disney executive looking for a hot property to bring to the big screen I would look no further than Forgotten Realms. The Realms have a long, rich history with a metric ton of great lore, characters, and locations. I'd sell my first born for a movie set in Waterdeep, Calimport, or Luskan! In all likelihood Disney would pick Drizzt or Elminster for the main character because they are the Realm's biggest names and are arguably more recognizable by the average guy than any of Magic's planeswalkers. After Forgotten Realms there's still Ravenloft, Dragonlance, Dark Sun, and Eberron.
Um, outside of magic, isn't Disney overstepping it's bounds with these buyups recently? Like To the point that words such as "Monopoly" start flying around, and not the board game kind? Seriously, it's getting to the point where 95% of US media is controlled by like 6 groups. (Disney, Clear Channel, NBC/Comcast, Viacom, News Corp, And Time Warner.)
Iger, Visionary - UWBRG (Mythic Rare)
Planeswalker - CEO Iger
+1 Put a 1/1 Goofy creature token with haste into play. Sacrifice it at end of turn.
-2 Search your library for any combination of up to 2 Mouse, Duck, Beast, or Merfolk creature cards. Reveal those cards, and put them into your hand. Shuffle your library afterwards.
-7 Put a 7/7 Eisner token into play. All Eisners are indestructible and have, "Whenever this creature deals damage to an opponent, that player loses the game." Whenever an Eisner token leaves play, you lose the game.
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I don't know if it would be my first pick in a Draft, though. Just sayin'.
Iger, Visionary - UWBRG (Mythic Rare)
Planeswalker - CEO Iger
+1 Put a 1/1 Goofy creature token with haste into play. Sacrifice it at end of turn.
-2 Search your library for any combination of up to 2 Mouse, Duck, Beast, or Merfolk creature cards. Reveal those cards, and put them into your hand. Shuffle your library afterwards.
-7 Put a 7/7 Eisner token into play. All Eisners are indestructible and have, "Whenever this creature deals damage to an opponent, that player loses the game." Whenever an Eisner token leaves play, you lose the game.
4
I don't know if it would be my first pick in a Draft, though. Just sayin'.
Take your monoblack deck, then set aside 14 swamps. Add 4 Creeping Tar Pits, 4 Darkslick Shores, 4 Drowned Catacombs, and 2 Jwar isle Refuge and add 4 Jace, the Mindsculptors. Your monoblack deck is instantly better. Better yet, drop those refuges, throw in some islands and some mana leaks, and lo and behold, you're now playing a real deck. Congratulations. Welcome to the world of competitive M:TG.
I want this to happen so much! I want them to buy Wizards of the Coast, abolish the reserve list, and make a Magic the Gathering movie. Nicol Bolas would be a pretty awesome Disney villain.
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Nicol Bolas is so awesome! And so is Kokusho! Bolas x Kokusho 4eva!!! <3
Read their story here!
If it would mean Wizards has access to the Golden Legal Army of Disney and could slay the Reserved List, I for one would welcome our new rodent overlords.
Edit: Disney seems to be pretty big at letting companies do their own thing, see Marvel and Pixar. Honestly, I think most people are hoping Disney buys their favorite franchise so the franchise retains its autonomy and has even more freedom knowing Big Mickey is looking out for them.
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Don't you see that the whole aim of Moderators is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make infractions literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. Every concept that can ever be needed, will be expressed by exactly one word, with its meaning rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and forgotten.
I don't see the problem, most of the fears could have been said back when hasbro bought wotc and that didn't kill the game either. Wotc is profitable, is the big money in the grand scheme of a giant toy company? Nope but it does turn a profit and has been a stable and independent developer for its entire existence. Disney would be stupid to radically overhaul wotc.
It's a conspiracy to force wizards to print a new unset. This is all Disney has ever really wanted.
On a much more serious note, the only thing I can imagine changing would be an increase in production value, since wizards can lean on the magic power of Disney. The real question is whether or not Disney will value eternal formats, and whether or not they will try and control the secondary market. If they value eternal formats, it is possible to abolish the reserved list, and to print various staples. If they want to control the secondary market, that could get very interesting.
The good news is pro tour Disney is going to be my first major tournament.
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Lycanthropy Awareness Day.
Hoping for a cure, or at least an outbreak.
How about "You may discard your hand, pay 5 life, rip this card, remove 3 digits from any number of target fingers you control, and concede at the end of the next end step rather than pay It Will Go Through!!'s mana cost.
Counter target spell."
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Haha lol.
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kill reserve list
profit
One childhood at a time.
I am support this.
I am curious why disney is buying so much stuff. As long as they keep the quality up, then it makes no difference.
Let's face it--Disney has never really had a lot to offer the adolescent-young adult male demographic. With Star Wars and WoTC, they've got some serious gunpowder in that fight.
It's just talks. That means that if anything were to actually occur it would go through a couple of years of contract drafts and so on. No major acquisition is quick. I am sure the Star Wars purchase has been in the talks ever since they initially started redoing the Star-Tours ride. I wouldn't expect to see any purchase of Hasbro for at least 3 or so years if Disney wanted to purchase them right this instance. I'd gather that Disney is now interested in collecting nerd culture under 1 roof in order to do as they please and even more so literally print money more so than they already do.
Doubt that. Disney loves making collectibles and keeping them collectible. They just release new collectibles to keep everyone happy.
I wouldn't ready too much into this .. yet. Like others have mentioned, Disney bought Marvel, and I didn't notice anything Disney-ish at all about the Avengers. Other properties they've purchased don't seem to be terribly affected by them either. Okay, maybe Disney stuff gets pushed a little on ABC, but it's not like Goofy has a regular spot on Sportscenter or whatever.
But if anybody could defend against the likely onslaught of lawsuits that may or may not result from abolishing the reserved list, I bet Disney could. But would they? Sure, they could make some quick cash, but it would dry up fast. And who knows what the ramifications would be long term?
Currently playing:
Standard: Superfriends!
Legacy: Nic Fit / Pod
Pauper: Delvar; Tron; Flicker Stuff
Commander: Riku ("Some weird doubple spell thing happened"); Keranos ("I did a Gatherer search for 'random' and 'flip a coin.'"); Superfriends!
Cutting Kaijudo and all the other failed products would do the same thing. D&D is trying to repair its reputation as the leading tabletop products after 4th tanked and Paizo laughed all the way to the bank. D&D Next is looking fantastic so far and so I'd reserve judgment about cutting it until after it finishes development.
I think a Disney buyout would be more and less exciting than people think. More exciting because the budget for everything would likely increase and so everything from design to R&D to organized play would improve. Less exciting because they are not likely to force Wizards to revisit old Magic storylines as fodder for films. For better or worse, Jace and company are the faces of the game now and any new media produced will feature them. If I were a Disney executive looking for a hot property to bring to the big screen I would look no further than Forgotten Realms. The Realms have a long, rich history with a metric ton of great lore, characters, and locations. I'd sell my first born for a movie set in Waterdeep, Calimport, or Luskan! In all likelihood Disney would pick Drizzt or Elminster for the main character because they are the Realm's biggest names and are arguably more recognizable by the average guy than any of Magic's planeswalkers. After Forgotten Realms there's still Ravenloft, Dragonlance, Dark Sun, and Eberron.
Saban bought the Power Rangers back from Disney after Disney ended the series. Nothing is impossible if you have enough money.
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Will be kept until 12/31/2013 to prove if Right or Wrong.Proven right 1/27/2013[[b]B]DCI Level 2 Judge[/B][/b]Iger, Visionary - UWBRG (Mythic Rare)
Planeswalker - CEO Iger
+1 Put a 1/1 Goofy creature token with haste into play. Sacrifice it at end of turn.
-2 Search your library for any combination of up to 2 Mouse, Duck, Beast, or Merfolk creature cards. Reveal those cards, and put them into your hand. Shuffle your library afterwards.
-7 Put a 7/7 Eisner token into play. All Eisners are indestructible and have, "Whenever this creature deals damage to an opponent, that player loses the game." Whenever an Eisner token leaves play, you lose the game.
4
I don't know if it would be my first pick in a Draft, though. Just sayin'.
Iger, Visionary - UWBRG (Mythic Rare)
Planeswalker - CEO Iger
+1 Put a 1/1 Goofy creature token with haste into play. Sacrifice it at end of turn.
-2 Search your library for any combination of up to 2 Mouse, Duck, Beast, or Merfolk creature cards. Reveal those cards, and put them into your hand. Shuffle your library afterwards.
-7 Put a 7/7 Eisner token into play. All Eisners are indestructible and have, "Whenever this creature deals damage to an opponent, that player loses the game." Whenever an Eisner token leaves play, you lose the game.
4
I don't know if it would be my first pick in a Draft, though. Just sayin'.
no, seriously. if Disney buys Hasbro and WotC I personally pray that they purchase Square next because hnnnnng
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We will rebuild.
Nicol Bolas is so awesome! And so is Kokusho!
Bolas x Kokusho 4eva!!! <3
Read their story here!
BMy Little KokushoB
RBRakdos UNLEASHED!!!RB
My Standard Decks:
UGRakdos, Bolas, and Ludevic Go To A PartyUG
Edit: Disney seems to be pretty big at letting companies do their own thing, see Marvel and Pixar. Honestly, I think most people are hoping Disney buys their favorite franchise so the franchise retains its autonomy and has even more freedom knowing Big Mickey is looking out for them.
On a much more serious note, the only thing I can imagine changing would be an increase in production value, since wizards can lean on the
magicpower of Disney. The real question is whether or not Disney will value eternal formats, and whether or not they will try and control the secondary market. If they value eternal formats, it is possible to abolish the reserved list, and to print various staples. If they want to control the secondary market, that could get very interesting.The good news is pro tour Disney is going to be my first major tournament.
Hoping for a cure, or at least an outbreak.
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