Now that we are getting all of these reprints, what will happen to the value of the original versions of the cards? Example: Akroma is around $13-$15. What will the timeshifted one be worth? My guess is that the timeshifted versions will be worth a little more since they are part of an exclusive set. This is the comparision of the cards before and after, not whether the originals will go up just because they are in T2. Ideas?
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The price will drop slightly if the cards are not type 2 legal, as they're not going to be reprinted that heavily; however, as seems to be the case now, if they are Type 2 legal, they will drastically increase in value. Expect Psionic Blast to reach the 30$ mark as a top example, and even cards like Tormod's Crypt or Soltari Priest to go up to 5-6$.
i believe that the carsd have been confirmed T2 legal. i need to get my tormods crypt back from my friend:)
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I should've kept my Tormod's Crypt from The Dark instead of trading it away for... something I can't recall right now. I can imagine that stuff like Psionic Blast, which hasn't seen a reprint for a while, might drop a buck or two since they'll be easier to get, while more recent, easier-to-get ones, like Akroma, might go up. It's varied.
Yeah Psionic Blast will show up once in about FOUR boxes. The price for it (and old ones) will go up. I imagine a Foil Psionic Blast will be around 100$. The regular one will hit around 30$ I'd estimate.
I think that's the only old card that will end up being worth tons of money. Everything else has seen some recent (relatively) print, or isn't powerful enough to warrant a high cost.
Lantern Kami ($0.20 a playset) rotates out. It's natural replacement, Flying Men ($20 a playset once T2 legal) replaces it.
Check and mate. Wizards of the Coast are the winner, I guess.
Acutally, WotC doesn't benefit one iota from the secondary market. They'll sell more cards, but that's because the set rox so hard, and they'll make money doing that.
ALL Purples Will Fetch Good prices, Cards Like Squire, Ghost Ship and Tribal Flames wil only be in the $3-$6 range, if that But Cards LIke Akroma, Psionic Blast and Bad Moon Will Skyrocket.(Akroma could fetch $30 a piece Easy, Id hate to think how much a Foil one would be! )
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I recon the cards will increase in price. seeming there harder to open then any 1 time spiral rare and the're standard legal, its a simple case of supply and demand..
In order to get a full set of repints you'd have to open 484 booster packs... now thats alot. 164 more then a full set of TS rares. As a result there harder to find.. and if everyone is after these reprint cards, especially the older ones which were in legends etc, there prices are gona be insane as the originals are hard to find and the reprints have a lower distribition then the rares of TS.
should be interesting to see what happens..
dunno what everyone else thinks about this.
where did you get your number how sure are you what the purple print run and distribution is?
coz i mean common... it'd be stupid if fre whip were just as rare as akroma...
where did you get your number how sure are you what the purple print run and distribution is?
coz i mean common... it'd be stupid if fre whip were just as rare as akroma...
They're in the same slot. One per booster. (Like a normal rare.) 121 total, but not separated by rarity. You'll get a Squire as often as you get an Akroma.
One per booster is pretty good...if you're really lucky you can keep opening akromas and psionic blasts, or voids and mystic snakes or other playable cards.
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ALL Purples Will Fetch Good prices, Cards Like Squire, Ghost Ship and Tribal Flames wil only be in the $3-$6 range, if that But Cards LIke Akroma, Psionic Blast and Bad Moon Will Skyrocket.(Akroma could fetch $30 a piece Easy, Id hate to think how much a Foil one would be! )
I have little to say to the rest of this thread, but: Squire? 3-6 dollars? Are you mad, sir?
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true dat.. i'm keeping all timeshifted cards.. and in 2hg i'll probably give my normal TS rares (depending obviously) for the timeshifted cards.. luckily for me.. i have a playset of nearly all the timeshifted cards (I always play with feldon's cane, tormods crypt, akroma, avatar, soltari, slayer, and lord of atlantis) anyways..
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I just want people who redraft to admit this:
"I can't draft objectively unless I am able to guarantee that I receive at least 3 rares. I am also better than most average/new players so I want to make sure that I get the best rares and they end up with worse ones. I care more about the monetary value of cards than actually playing the game for decent prizes."
The price of these cards will not be that different from current rares. Some will fetch high prices and others won't.
Squire was a common from The Dark and despite how old that set is, it can still be found for a really low price. Just because it is effectively rare in Time Spiral, won't make the card that much more expensive. For example, the Vulshok Morningstart went from common in Darksteel to uncommon in 9th Edition without a big price change, same with the Loxodon Warhammer going from uncommon in Mirrodin to rare in 9th Edition. Of course there has never been a card that has gone from common to rare and I would imagine that the Time Spiral branded one will be more expensive than The Dark version, but it won't be excessively more expensive because then people woulnd't buy it.
For a lot of the older, more powerful cards, that are currently expensive (Psionic Blast, for example), they will drop in price because they will be more common then before. For some of the relatively newer powerful cards that are currently cheap, they will raise in price because there is more demand for them with them being legal in Standard again (especially the invitational cards).
It's a mixed bag really, some will go up and some will go down.
psionic blast will not drop in price. Quite the contrary, it will rise. Even with increased supply, the demand is going to be going through the roof.
I agree that every purple will be worth something, but squire and other crap won't go over a dollar. Collectors will want a purple set, but most collectors open a ton of product, and will have the bad stuff already. Don't expect beacoup dollars for the purple crap. I look at purples as bringing about 30 or 40 good cards into the environment, and offering me a nice bonus every 4 or so packs. Its similar to getting double foils.
The price of the the purple timeshifted cards will vary based on playability, and will be very similar to the price of the normal rares in the set, although perhaps slightly higher because they are harder to find. However, any of the purples that are easy/inexpensive to obtain from older sets will not be worth as much. For instance, if akroma and withered wretch are each played about the same amount in standard, akroma will be worth more because you can't go and get an older version for cheap (not that old wretches are really cheap, but they're not too bad).
However, all of the older versions of the playable timeshifted cards will go up in price, some drastically. Probably the best example is psionic blast. It was fetching from $25-$30USD before time spiral, but now it'll go up for two reasons. Firstly, blast will be a heavily played card in standard, meaning all copies of the card will go up in value, just because people will need them to make their decks. Second and more importantly, players who want to "pimp their decks" will want to run the old copies of cards instead of the new reprints, and there aren't that many of the older ones lying around.
As for the nonplayables, ie. consecrate land, they'll be worth about as much as an unplayable rare, ie. grozoth, just because some people will want them for their collections. Older versions may go up slightly because the demand for them will go up slightly (again, by people who want copies of the old cards just for collections' sakes).
And...foil copies of the purples, particularly foils of cards which were never printed in a set with foils could be worth something ridiculous. I can't even imagine what a foil psionic blast will be worth, because it has never been printed as a foil before.
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i guess i'm the only one who doesn't see it as a big deal..
most of the purple cards (outside of the really old ones.. read psionic blast) are really easy to find and collect older versions of.. i would think "pimped out" would be "four foil psionic blasts" i would really like to get a foil tormod's or foil claws of gix
EDIT: is consecrate land unplayable?... as for casual online where LD runs around a lot i would run consecrate land in my white deck.. I used to run it in my white deck as a way to keep my lands from armageddon. granted its not a great card, but its not "nonplayable".. in extended, it makes artifact lands immune to artifact hate, and it might adapt white as a color..
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OMG, just imagine the price of Psionic blast on MTGO....seriously just imagine. OK now stop crying.
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I just don't see Psionic Blast going for as much as the current Unlimited version of Psionic Blast. I mean, sure it will be a chase rare and it is a good card that people know is good (if nothing else, just look at how good Char is and this one is even better for being in blue and doing the same thing), but what I see happening is the price of the older versions of Psionic Blast going up because of increased demand for them for Standard decks, but the price of the Standard one to be several dollars lower than the currently priced Unlimited versions.
This, of course, has nothing to do with the price of any foil versions of any card. I don't follow the trends in the price of foil cards other than to know that the more expensive the non-foil card, the more expensive the foil version is.
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Really? Man, that sucks.
Check and mate. Wizards of the Coast are the winner, I guess.
I think that's the only old card that will end up being worth tons of money. Everything else has seen some recent (relatively) print, or isn't powerful enough to warrant a high cost.
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Acutally, WotC doesn't benefit one iota from the secondary market. They'll sell more cards, but that's because the set rox so hard, and they'll make money doing that.
No, the real winners are the singles sellers.
ALL Purples Will Fetch Good prices, Cards Like Squire, Ghost Ship and Tribal Flames wil only be in the $3-$6 range, if that But Cards LIke Akroma, Psionic Blast and Bad Moon Will Skyrocket.(Akroma could fetch $30 a piece Easy, Id hate to think how much a Foil one would be! )
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where did you get your number how sure are you what the purple print run and distribution is?
coz i mean common... it'd be stupid if fre whip were just as rare as akroma...
They're in the same slot. One per booster. (Like a normal rare.) 121 total, but not separated by rarity. You'll get a Squire as often as you get an Akroma.
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I have little to say to the rest of this thread, but: Squire? 3-6 dollars? Are you mad, sir?
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true dat.. i'm keeping all timeshifted cards.. and in 2hg i'll probably give my normal TS rares (depending obviously) for the timeshifted cards.. luckily for me.. i have a playset of nearly all the timeshifted cards (I always play with feldon's cane, tormods crypt, akroma, avatar, soltari, slayer, and lord of atlantis) anyways..
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Squire was a common from The Dark and despite how old that set is, it can still be found for a really low price. Just because it is effectively rare in Time Spiral, won't make the card that much more expensive. For example, the Vulshok Morningstart went from common in Darksteel to uncommon in 9th Edition without a big price change, same with the Loxodon Warhammer going from uncommon in Mirrodin to rare in 9th Edition. Of course there has never been a card that has gone from common to rare and I would imagine that the Time Spiral branded one will be more expensive than The Dark version, but it won't be excessively more expensive because then people woulnd't buy it.
For a lot of the older, more powerful cards, that are currently expensive (Psionic Blast, for example), they will drop in price because they will be more common then before. For some of the relatively newer powerful cards that are currently cheap, they will raise in price because there is more demand for them with them being legal in Standard again (especially the invitational cards).
It's a mixed bag really, some will go up and some will go down.
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I agree that every purple will be worth something, but squire and other crap won't go over a dollar. Collectors will want a purple set, but most collectors open a ton of product, and will have the bad stuff already. Don't expect beacoup dollars for the purple crap. I look at purples as bringing about 30 or 40 good cards into the environment, and offering me a nice bonus every 4 or so packs. Its similar to getting double foils.
However, all of the older versions of the playable timeshifted cards will go up in price, some drastically. Probably the best example is psionic blast. It was fetching from $25-$30USD before time spiral, but now it'll go up for two reasons. Firstly, blast will be a heavily played card in standard, meaning all copies of the card will go up in value, just because people will need them to make their decks. Second and more importantly, players who want to "pimp their decks" will want to run the old copies of cards instead of the new reprints, and there aren't that many of the older ones lying around.
As for the nonplayables, ie. consecrate land, they'll be worth about as much as an unplayable rare, ie. grozoth, just because some people will want them for their collections. Older versions may go up slightly because the demand for them will go up slightly (again, by people who want copies of the old cards just for collections' sakes).
And...foil copies of the purples, particularly foils of cards which were never printed in a set with foils could be worth something ridiculous. I can't even imagine what a foil psionic blast will be worth, because it has never been printed as a foil before.
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most of the purple cards (outside of the really old ones.. read psionic blast) are really easy to find and collect older versions of.. i would think "pimped out" would be "four foil psionic blasts" i would really like to get a foil tormod's or foil claws of gix
EDIT: is consecrate land unplayable?... as for casual online where LD runs around a lot i would run consecrate land in my white deck.. I used to run it in my white deck as a way to keep my lands from armageddon. granted its not a great card, but its not "nonplayable".. in extended, it makes artifact lands immune to artifact hate, and it might adapt white as a color..
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OMG, just imagine the price of Psionic blast on MTGO....seriously just imagine. OK now stop crying.
This, of course, has nothing to do with the price of any foil versions of any card. I don't follow the trends in the price of foil cards other than to know that the more expensive the non-foil card, the more expensive the foil version is.
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