Blood Baron seems like a better defender than Obzedat. Obzedat's main strength though is that it can avoid sweepers. Blood Baron can ignore all of the best removal in the format. (Dreadbore, O-Rings, Angel of Serenity, Removal Charms, Olivia, Detention Ring... etc).
The last ability is just gravy to be honest. Pro Black and White as well as lifelink? Damn shove more stuff in there!
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You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
You can pretty much ignore the second ability on Blood Baron. You're paying 5 mana for a 4/4 lifelink guy who only dies to sweepers and mizzium mortars. Detention sphere, murder, o-ring, tragic slip, putrefy, azorious charm, none of them, touch this guy. On top of that, he glides right past pretty much anything that isn't a thragtusk. If the format slows down a bit I think hes playable.
Blood Baron of Vizkopa sucks..... its a win more card. If it activates you're winning the game already... bad card is bad.
You're way too focused on the 30/10 life part of the card. Ignore that and you still have a 4/4 with Lifelink and Pro Black/White. That's hardly bad for 5 mana, the possibility of it activating it's second ability is gravy.
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I admit my initial reaction to Blood Baron was more tied to his boost ability. Taking a step back the card isn't that bad.
My problem with the Baron is his cost as I feel Orzhov already has a good 5 drop in Obzedat. If he cost 4 mana and was a 3/4 I could see wanting him more in my deck because the protections he has are really good. I like the Obzedat a lot though and this guy just feels like he's trying to compete for the same spot in a deck.
The advantage of the Baron is his immunity to most targeted removal, while Obzedat just avoids sorcery speed removal. The upside for Obzedat is that he doesn't die to sweepers like Baron does.
I think the forums would be better if it showed which format each poster plays the most. That way when you see people complain about a card, you understand why. Everyone saying Blood Baron is so much worse than Serra Ascendant, well you can't play Serra Ascendant in standard, can you?
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You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
Malakir Bloodwitch wasn't playable because of the drain, it was the protection from white, which was relevant against baneslayer angel and path to exile.
This funny-looking guy is looking pretty solid, given the right meta. He's also super-duper resilient to Seize the Soul.
Deadbridge Chant is a really good EDH card. That's pretty much it. Temporal Apertures from your graveyard every turn.
Deadbridge chant is really good,if it doesn't hit a creature you can always get a spell back,add in some targeted graveyard removal and you can counter a spell every turn,kill a dude every turn,ramp every turn,play a chump blocker every turn.
I love this card.
I wish my 4/4s with haste and first strike that acted as Goblin Warchiefs were better and didn't die to instants and overshadowed all other 4 drops in the format. And that they had evasion too, and some way to dodge wrath effects.
How is a 4/4 for 5 with protection from Angel of Serenity and Restoration Angel AND Azorious Charm bad? Who cares about the other ability. Look at it without that.
pro-AoS, Resto, Azo Charm, Orzhov Charm, D-Sphere, O-Ring, swings past an Obzedat on blocker duty (or chumps an Obzedat), says 'can't handle me' to white-based aggro and overall is just a bully.
Take your monoblack deck, then set aside 14 swamps. Add 4 Creeping Tar Pits, 4 Darkslick Shores, 4 Drowned Catacombs, and 2 Jwar isle Refuge and add 4 Jace, the Mindsculptors. Your monoblack deck is instantly better. Better yet, drop those refuges, throw in some islands and some mana leaks, and lo and behold, you're now playing a real deck. Congratulations. Welcome to the world of competitive M:TG.
Obzedat is far superior just for the unstoppable life drain and overall awesomeness. This guy is solid, but more of a sideboard card against the mirror maybe.
Also s/he's a vampire. Might have to dust off the innistrad deck and see if a grixis variant isn't playable. No olivia, but not a legend, so s/he can take some olivia slots.
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You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
The Bridge looks cool, but then you have to remember it costs 6 to cast, and gets you nothing when it comes in or when it leaves. So imagine playing it on turn 4 or 5, and then your opponent just using Oblivion Ring the following turn. It really should have hexproof or something. You tapped out and wasted a turn and got nothing. Even if it's in play, it can miss.
The Blood Baron is pretty good, and very good in multiplayer.
He's a 4/4 for 5 with two protections and lifelink. That's all we need.
The last ability is just gravy to be honest. Pro Black and White as well as lifelink? Damn shove more stuff in there!
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You're way too focused on the 30/10 life part of the card. Ignore that and you still have a 4/4 with Lifelink and Pro Black/White. That's hardly bad for 5 mana, the possibility of it activating it's second ability is gravy.
Savra died in the old Ravnica set, the previous Dimir Guild master snapped her neck like a twig.
But I like the Golgari mythic, I hope it is not that expensive since it is randomization and high costing.
My problem with the Baron is his cost as I feel Orzhov already has a good 5 drop in Obzedat. If he cost 4 mana and was a 3/4 I could see wanting him more in my deck because the protections he has are really good. I like the Obzedat a lot though and this guy just feels like he's trying to compete for the same spot in a deck.
The advantage of the Baron is his immunity to most targeted removal, while Obzedat just avoids sorcery speed removal. The upside for Obzedat is that he doesn't die to sweepers like Baron does.
I think the forums would be better if it showed which format each poster plays the most. That way when you see people complain about a card, you understand why. Everyone saying Blood Baron is so much worse than Serra Ascendant, well you can't play Serra Ascendant in standard, can you?
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[[b]B]DCI Level 2 Judge[/B][/b]This funny-looking guy is looking pretty solid, given the right meta. He's also super-duper resilient to Seize the Soul.
Deadbridge Chant is a really good EDH card. That's pretty much it. Temporal Apertures from your graveyard every turn.
I love this card.
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pro-AoS, Resto, Azo Charm, Orzhov Charm, D-Sphere, O-Ring, swings past an Obzedat on blocker duty (or chumps an Obzedat), says 'can't handle me' to white-based aggro and overall is just a bully.
Good point.
My initial reaction to it was how unfavorably it compares to SA,
but those protections do make it a threat.
It's not very creative, but it is flavorful and strong.
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What is conditional about pro-best removal in format?
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And aren't multicolored cards supposed to be stronger than monocolored cards, this guy could have lived without the second condition.
The Blood Baron is pretty good, and very good in multiplayer.
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