Does anybody noticed that there is no black booster theme ? Doesn't it means that Lorwyn will gonna be more a Green+ and Black- Block ? I guess so 'cause of Shadowfall.That might be Black > Green.
Until we start seeing spoilers, this is complete speculation. For all we know, them there treefolk are some eeeevvvvilllll sons of beetches... but yeah, it's pretty easy to think this set is very "green" just by looking at art.
Edit - This may be over analyzing now, but the Bull thing almost looks like it is made of brass and has the same blueish tarnish on its nose. Maybe the bull is a construct/Golem. Maybe we will have an artifact tribe of some sort.
This seems plausible since Wizards have added creature subtypes to all creatures, including Artifact Creatures, as of Xth Edition...but what creature type could it be? Golem and construct are good guesses...
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To me, the heron/stork/crane/whatever sitting on the "water buffalo" makes it almost look like the creature is "awakening" from a lengthy slumber under a marshy/swampy area. To me, the art has got to be of some sort of big green fatty...something that was resting nice and peacefully and then something had to come along and wake it up. And now it (and half the wallow it was laying in, due to its size) are coming to get you.
Just my take...but I'm thinking some 5/5 or better green fat for that card.
Until we start seeing spoilers, this is complete speculation. For all we know, them there treefolk are some eeeevvvvilllll sons of beetches... but yeah, it's pretty easy to think this set is very "green" just by looking at art.
Treefolks can be black. In fact, it's the green staple creature that I can see the black easiest. Gnarly old trees growing by a swamp that grab and snatch anyone coming close... If we're venturing to fairy-tale land, that's how they would make more sense than as green Tolkienesque ones...
It's really the only unknown quantity here. Except for unusual cases, it's pretty obvious that Kithkin are white, Merfolk are blue, Elementals (at least flame-kin) are red and Treefolk are green. Assuming the art department is being consistent with the idea of cycles, that pretty much pegs our bull / turtle beasty as the black one of the bunch. All the junk on its horns / shells looks like swamp matter to me.
So, what IS it?
I think most people agree that Lorwyn is reaching into Gaelic mythology for its inspiration here. Well, it really wouldn't be Gaelic mythology if you didn't have evil water spirits, and that's what I peg this guy as. I point you to the Fuath as the best example. Kelpies are in the same vein. I'm not saying that they'll actually have the Spirit creature type (they might just be Beasts), but I'm guessing that's what they are from a flavor perspective.
I actually think the speculation of less black in this "set" than "Jelly" makes alot of sense considering the light/dark theme.
1. Kithkin = White
2. Flame-kin = Red/x, they have only used white as a second color for Flame-kin so far, but the next best possibility would be black (enemy-color)
3. Aurochs = Green/x, possibly blue (enemy-color), but that leaves...
4. Merrow = Blue/x, possibly green or white (allied-color)
5. Treefolk = Green iconic creature?
Surprises?
1. Lack of elves -- hey, the elemental and merrow look like elves, but they are not elves. This is supposed to be the set focused on elves, right?
2. Lack of black -- not as surprising if you may consider a different, really uneven color distribution. Rule to be broken?
Not suprising...
1. Arts we already know.
2. Light theme really played up, just like the lands. Very, very bright images.
Lorwyn looks interesting, but I am withholding judgment (and pre-orders) until September.
This might sound like a cop out, but the bull things looks like an elemental to me. If it doesn't look like the tribes we know will be active, the safest bet is for it to be an elemental. An elemental of the wild or something to that extant seems more feasible than a Bull, Minotaur or Auroch. Basically, if it looks out of the ordinary, it's an elemental.
I think the bull thing is black, but thats just my opinion. All of the art looks really cool! I love the treefolk. I'm hoping we get some fae now in lorwyn as opposed to later.
Surprises?
1. Lack of elves -- hey, the elemental and merrow look like elves, but they are not elves. This is supposed to be the set focused on elves, right?
2. Lack of black -- not as surprising if you may consider a different, really uneven color distribution. Rule to be broken?
These are just booster images.
We have a black release card. It is pretty obvious that for the release card to be black, black is not going to be shafted here. Actually the two cards we know from the set happen to be black. (Liliana and Shriekmaw)
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/arcana/1138
Look at the TS boosters. Hardly is representative of the colors and themes of the set. They are just cool arts that are put on boosters. If we went by the TS boosters we could say 'Where is the green????'.
And to make things crystal clear, the rule that was broken was already revealed, as it is the block structure, and the two mini-blocks.
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Something that's bugging me about Lilliana Vess...and hearing Urzassedatives say "the two cards we know from the set.." really brought it to light...we don't really know that Lilliana Vess is a LOR card, do we? Heck..we don't even know that she's a real card that will ever come out. An "easter egg" doesn't have to equal a "spoiler"...it could just be more like a "hint". And the fact that her name is an anagram of "a villainess" could mean just that...it's an easter egg we were supposed to find and work out and figure out that there is going to be some sort of powerful villainess coming to this world, and that she somehow relates to the PW cardtype/mechanic.
Something that's bugging me about Lilliana Vess...and hearing Urzassedatives say "the two cards we know from the set.." really brought it to light...we don't really know that Lilliana Vess is a LOR card, do we? Heck..we don't even know that she's a real card that will ever come out. An "easter egg" doesn't have to equal a "spoiler"...it could just be more like a "hint". And the fact that her name is an anagram of "a villainess" could mean just that...it's an easter egg we were supposed to find and work out and figure out that there is going to be some sort of powerful villainess coming to this world, and that she somehow relates to the PW cardtype/mechanic.
Or maybe I'm thinking too hard.
Cheers,
Austin
You're thinking too hard.
WotC has never spoiled a card that isn't a card. They've never used in advertisement a card that isn't a card. And they never start advertising for a set that isn't the next set to be released. With that in mind, we can be certain that Lilliana Vess is a card, and that it is from Lorwyn.
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"One skilled at battle takes a stand in the ground of no defeat
And so does not lose the enemy's defeat.
Therefore, the victorious military is first victorious and after that does battle.
The defeated military first does battle and after that seeks victory."
This is one place where never fits perfectly. Advertising is a very simple and predictable thing. They would never advertise for the second set of a block when the first set is not yet out. And they would never promote a card that isn't actually a card -- it leads to a lack of credibility.
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"One skilled at battle takes a stand in the ground of no defeat
And so does not lose the enemy's defeat.
Therefore, the victorious military is first victorious and after that does battle.
The defeated military first does battle and after that seeks victory."
WotC has never spoiled a card that isn't a card. They've never used in advertisement a card that isn't a card. And they never start advertising for a set that isn't the next set to be released. With that in mind, we can be certain that Lilliana Vess is a card, and that it is from Lorwyn.
Which was actually printed on a card. It was real. It existed. If Lilliana Vess isn't real, it'll be the first time WotC has ever revealed a card which isn't real, which didn't end up existing. Which is bad business.
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"One skilled at battle takes a stand in the ground of no defeat
And so does not lose the enemy's defeat.
Therefore, the victorious military is first victorious and after that does battle.
The defeated military first does battle and after that seeks victory."
Which was actually printed on a card. It was real. It existed. If Lilliana Vess isn't real, it'll be the first time WotC has ever revealed a card which isn't real, which didn't end up existing. Which is bad business.
Of course, I'm not saying one way or another what Liliana Vess is or isn't.
Not quite the same thing. That used an image that wasn't reflected in a card in the given set, but it didn't actually show an image of the card itself. It's the fact that Liliana Vess is displayed in a card frame that makes us completely certain that she is, in fact, a real card.
Not quite the same thing. That used an image that wasn't reflected in a card in the given set, but it didn't actually show an image of the card itself. It's the fact that Liliana Vess is displayed in a card frame that makes us completely certain that she is, in fact, a real card.
It also wasn't pasted on a giant poster to be used for advertisement.
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"One skilled at battle takes a stand in the ground of no defeat
And so does not lose the enemy's defeat.
Therefore, the victorious military is first victorious and after that does battle.
The defeated military first does battle and after that seeks victory."
Still, there is no confirmation about Liliana Vess on Lorwyn, just planeswalkers. My guess is that she'll hit on Shadowfall, not on the "clean" set of Lorwyn or even Morningtide.
But certainly, the R/U "Minotaur" can take down this lady (Liliana) as fast as he gets out of under of that smashed Tower Bell.
Not quite the same thing. That used an image that wasn't reflected in a card in the given set, but it didn't actually show an image of the card itself. It's the fact that Liliana Vess is displayed in a card frame that makes us completely certain that she is, in fact, a real card.
Well...you never know. perhaps the card=fake, the unglued art=real.
And BTW: i was putting southern paladin in my decks sb for standard
and i bought a fat pack for the oversized card.
Wotc sucks.
EDIT: speaking of lilana vess, do we even KNOW SHES IN LORWYN?!?!?!
I mean, the theme is obviously tribal...planeswalker doesnt really fit...and unglued art...
I think the treat or w/e that she was shows that we're just getting a new un set. thats all.
Until we start seeing spoilers, this is complete speculation. For all we know, them there treefolk are some eeeevvvvilllll sons of beetches... but yeah, it's pretty easy to think this set is very "green" just by looking at art.
This seems plausible since Wizards have added creature subtypes to all creatures, including Artifact Creatures, as of Xth Edition...but what creature type could it be? Golem and construct are good guesses...
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Just my take...but I'm thinking some 5/5 or better green fat for that card.
Cheers,
Austin
Treefolks can be black. In fact, it's the green staple creature that I can see the black easiest. Gnarly old trees growing by a swamp that grab and snatch anyone coming close... If we're venturing to fairy-tale land, that's how they would make more sense than as green Tolkienesque ones...
It's really the only unknown quantity here. Except for unusual cases, it's pretty obvious that Kithkin are white, Merfolk are blue, Elementals (at least flame-kin) are red and Treefolk are green. Assuming the art department is being consistent with the idea of cycles, that pretty much pegs our bull / turtle beasty as the black one of the bunch. All the junk on its horns / shells looks like swamp matter to me.
So, what IS it?
I think most people agree that Lorwyn is reaching into Gaelic mythology for its inspiration here. Well, it really wouldn't be Gaelic mythology if you didn't have evil water spirits, and that's what I peg this guy as. I point you to the Fuath as the best example. Kelpies are in the same vein. I'm not saying that they'll actually have the Spirit creature type (they might just be Beasts), but I'm guessing that's what they are from a flavor perspective.
Black, evil water spirits.
Someone call me?
I actually think the speculation of less black in this "set" than "Jelly" makes alot of sense considering the light/dark theme.
1. Kithkin = White
2. Flame-kin = Red/x, they have only used white as a second color for Flame-kin so far, but the next best possibility would be black (enemy-color)
3. Aurochs = Green/x, possibly blue (enemy-color), but that leaves...
4. Merrow = Blue/x, possibly green or white (allied-color)
5. Treefolk = Green iconic creature?
Surprises?
1. Lack of elves -- hey, the elemental and merrow look like elves, but they are not elves. This is supposed to be the set focused on elves, right?
2. Lack of black -- not as surprising if you may consider a different, really uneven color distribution. Rule to be broken?
Not suprising...
1. Arts we already know.
2. Light theme really played up, just like the lands. Very, very bright images.
Lorwyn looks interesting, but I am withholding judgment (and pre-orders) until September.
These are just booster images.
We have a black release card. It is pretty obvious that for the release card to be black, black is not going to be shafted here. Actually the two cards we know from the set happen to be black. (Liliana and Shriekmaw)
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/arcana/1138
Look at the TS boosters. Hardly is representative of the colors and themes of the set. They are just cool arts that are put on boosters. If we went by the TS boosters we could say 'Where is the green????'.
And to make things crystal clear, the rule that was broken was already revealed, as it is the block structure, and the two mini-blocks.
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Or maybe I'm thinking too hard.
Cheers,
Austin
WotC has never spoiled a card that isn't a card. They've never used in advertisement a card that isn't a card. And they never start advertising for a set that isn't the next set to be released. With that in mind, we can be certain that Lilliana Vess is a card, and that it is from Lorwyn.
And so does not lose the enemy's defeat.
Therefore, the victorious military is first victorious and after that does battle.
The defeated military first does battle and after that seeks victory."
And so does not lose the enemy's defeat.
Therefore, the victorious military is first victorious and after that does battle.
The defeated military first does battle and after that seeks victory."
They previewed Xth's Zombie token.
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And so does not lose the enemy's defeat.
Therefore, the victorious military is first victorious and after that does battle.
The defeated military first does battle and after that seeks victory."
Of course, I'm not saying one way or another what Liliana Vess is or isn't.
I thought booster packaging always consisted of images all by the same artist.
Do you have any confirmation of these names?
Not quite the same thing. That used an image that wasn't reflected in a card in the given set, but it didn't actually show an image of the card itself. It's the fact that Liliana Vess is displayed in a card frame that makes us completely certain that she is, in fact, a real card.
And so does not lose the enemy's defeat.
Therefore, the victorious military is first victorious and after that does battle.
The defeated military first does battle and after that seeks victory."
But certainly, the R/U "Minotaur" can take down this lady (Liliana) as fast as he gets out of under of that smashed Tower Bell.
Well...you never know. perhaps the card=fake, the unglued art=real.
And BTW: i was putting southern paladin in my decks sb for standard
and i bought a fat pack for the oversized card.
Wotc sucks.
EDIT: speaking of lilana vess, do we even KNOW SHES IN LORWYN?!?!?!
I mean, the theme is obviously tribal...planeswalker doesnt really fit...and unglued art...
I think the treat or w/e that she was shows that we're just getting a new un set. thats all.
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Would you mind explaining to me how a fist and "They're coming" justifies planeswalker is a theme in lorwyn..
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