I'd love to see pushed reasons to play Mono in EDH.
Yeah, Red needs another Gauntlet.
For real though I agree. More cards that reward mono-color would be cool. The Chroma keyword is terrible, but something like that, but better, would be sweet.
I find DGM to be much better than GTC for EDH in the sense that it does not contain any spells that are smashing over the head with "if you play X you must play me".
There's Gaze of Granite for BGX and Plasm Capture for UGX, so BGU Goodstuffs just got another two cards to make those decks more uniform.
For real though I agree. More cards that reward mono-color would be cool. The Chroma keyword is terrible, but something like that, but better, would be sweet.
Mono Green and Black are in a good place for mono. I'd love to see more support for the other colors. White probably needs the most help in that department.
Mono Green and Black are in a good place for mono. I'd love to see more support for the other colors. White probably needs the most help in that department.
I don't think it's that mono needs help, it's that it needs to get past its stereotypes, if that's even possible. White's gonna be tokens, Blue's gonna be counters, Black's gonna be zombies, Red's gonna be Norin, and green's gonna be herp derp ramp.
I don't think it's that mono needs help, it's that it needs to get past its stereotypes, if that's even possible. White's gonna be tokens, Blue's gonna be counters, Black's gonna be zombies, Red's gonna be Norin, and green's gonna be herp derp ramp.
Mono-Red also has a pretty reliable tokens strategy, though only for Goblins.
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I don't think it's that mono needs help, it's that it needs to get past its stereotypes, if that's even possible. White's gonna be tokens, Blue's gonna be counters, Black's gonna be zombies, Red's gonna be Norin, and green's gonna be herp derp ramp.
Horobi, Death's wail decks break the black stereotype hard.
Yeah, I was hesitant to call mono-black zombies because mono-black has a couple of good strategies. And sure each color has a couple of outliers, but I stand by my generalization.
In my experiences, I've found that most mono-black decks are generally combo oriented. I think the new Oprah Extorter (You get Extort! And you get Extort! And you get Extort!) is interesting, but with Black's tutor ability I'd rather just have Exsanguinate if I had the mana to drain the table anyway.
I dunno, after the game I played last night with Blind Obedience, I think I like Extort. I was down to 2 life when I won. I extorted a few times, so I probably gained ~12-15 life over the course of the game.
I'm pretty sure that new extort card is going to break a few hearts. Extort scales very, very well (even if it is expensive); the new "Extort for everyone!" dude is a little bit like a Kokusho with a built-in engine in one card.
I know I'm already tired of all the new life gain; my group's games already go on long, and essentially starting life totals at 60 isn't helping anything.
I'm pretty sure that new extort card is going to break a few hearts. Extort scales very, very well (even if it is expensive); the new "Extort for everyone!" dude is a little bit like a Kokusho with a built-in engine in one card.
I know I'm already tired of all the new life gain; my group's games already go on long, and essentially starting life totals at 60 isn't helping anything.
Know what stops absurd life gain? General damage and combo. It's almost as if all the archetypes have a purpose!
I know I'm already tired of all the new life gain; my group's games already go on long, and essentially starting life totals at 60 isn't helping anything.
WHAT? What are your games like? Does no one ever attack? Do you all pack just removal? Does no one run black?
Seemingly everyone else on this board wishes they had more life to use as a resource for other shenanigans. Hell, I just like more life to combat goblins.
I'm also furious because there are no more new artifacts or lands for this set. I had assumed we'd get more than reprints and color fixing for that set's limited play.
I'm also furious because there are no more new artifacts or lands for this set. I had assumed we'd get more than reprints and color fixing for that set's limited play.
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So do you run a Varolz deck with SB in it or a crazy-aggro SB deck with Varolz in the lieutenant role?
With the myriad ways to search for creatures in Golgari colors, it'd likely be a better choice to run SB as the Commander and tutor for Varolz later.
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With the myriad ways to search for creatures in Golgari colors, it'd likely be a better choice to run SB as the Commander and tutor for Varolz later.
Agreed - this gives you the potential play of scavenging a ton of counters onto Skullbriar, sacking him to something, scavenging him, and then recasting him from the Command Zone with all of his counters still intact.
One neat thing about the new Extort Boss dude is that he is also a Zombie, letting him play perfectly with Gravecrawler to give you a creature you can cast repeatedly to trigger extort over and over again.
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Word.
I'd love to see pushed reasons to play Mono in EDH.
Yeah, Red needs another Gauntlet.
For real though I agree. More cards that reward mono-color would be cool. The Chroma keyword is terrible, but something like that, but better, would be sweet.
There's Gaze of Granite for BGX and Plasm Capture for UGX, so BGU Goodstuffs just got another two cards to make those decks more uniform.
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Mono Green and Black are in a good place for mono. I'd love to see more support for the other colors. White probably needs the most help in that department.
I don't think it's that mono needs help, it's that it needs to get past its stereotypes, if that's even possible. White's gonna be tokens, Blue's gonna be counters, Black's gonna be zombies, Red's gonna be Norin, and green's gonna be herp derp ramp.
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Mono-Red also has a pretty reliable tokens strategy, though only for Goblins.
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Horobi, Death's wail decks break the black stereotype hard.
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Beaten to the punch. Besides, if people were right all the time, Jivan would be out of a job.
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I'm sure he'd muddle along somehow.
Nah, if people became better Magic players, Jivan would have to start playing Yu-Gi-Oh or try and bring back Pogs.
To keep this somewhat relevant to this thread, I like that new multicolored card because it will be good in my EDH deck.
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I know I'm already tired of all the new life gain; my group's games already go on long, and essentially starting life totals at 60 isn't helping anything.
Know what stops absurd life gain? General damage and combo. It's almost as if all the archetypes have a purpose!
WHAT? What are your games like? Does no one ever attack? Do you all pack just removal? Does no one run black?
Seemingly everyone else on this board wishes they had more life to use as a resource for other shenanigans. Hell, I just like more life to combat goblins.
I'm also furious because there are no more new artifacts or lands for this set. I had assumed we'd get more than reprints and color fixing for that set's limited play.
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As a Karn player - I feel ya, brah.
9/22/2011: Counters that adjust power and/or toughness affect Skullbriar's power and/or toughness in zones other than the battlefield. For example, a Skullbriar in the command zone with a +1/+1 counter on it will be 2/2.
:boros:Gisela, Blade of Goldnight:boros:
:orzhov:Doran, the Siege Tower:golgari:
:azorius:Rasputin Dreamweaver:azorius:
:izzet:Melek, Izzet Paragon:izzet:
:simic:Edric, Spymaster of Trest:simic:
:gruul:Maelstrom Wanderer:simic:
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With the myriad ways to search for creatures in Golgari colors, it'd likely be a better choice to run SB as the Commander and tutor for Varolz later.
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BGGlissa, The Traitor - Recursion (Primer)
WBRKaalia of The Vast
URGRiku of Two Reflections
WUBSydri, Galvanic Genius
UBRamirez DePietro
GWKrond, The Dawn-Clad
GWUDerevi, Empyrial Tactician
RGOmnath, Locus of Rage
Modern
UG Infect
Agreed - this gives you the potential play of scavenging a ton of counters onto Skullbriar, sacking him to something, scavenging him, and then recasting him from the Command Zone with all of his counters still intact.
One neat thing about the new Extort Boss dude is that he is also a Zombie, letting him play perfectly with Gravecrawler to give you a creature you can cast repeatedly to trigger extort over and over again.
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