I realized something the other day. I hate blue, despite having a blue deck (mono blue, to boot: Spiral Tide) in my roster. I detest how facile, conniving, and tricky it plays: and I simply loathe how it automatically makes every decent card printed in the color more expensive.
I love to hate blue.
However, I respect that some players may feel differently, so I will allow the community to post their own preferences, despite those preferences being less valid than my own should they differ from it
I hate wizards sometimes, for not measuring the consequences of some cards in eternal formats: blue is supposed to have the best library manipulation, draw spells and is the colour of FoW, not being enough, now they have 2 of the best creatures of the format.
If you check red or green, which in someway can put decent fights against u/x decks in standard, their creatures have zero to non-impact in legacy. Thragtusk is unplayable, so is Restoration Angel and Huntmaster of the Fells. DKA, AVR, M13 brought nothing really playable to the G/R colors, while W aggro decks got only Thalia.
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Legacy Decks:
GBW NO Elves / Aggro Elves GBWU Combo Elves
EDH Decks:
Duel Commander: GG Thrun, the last Trolololol GG GW The Captain WG GWB Karadores BWG GWU Jenara UWG UWB Oloro-DD BWU
I am not at all arguing that Blue is the most powerful color, or that such a thing exists. I think quite a few of the Established decks challenge the notion of it being the best color in Legacy, from Maverick to Goblins to Dredge and Belcher and on down the line.
I don't think Blue's tactics of counterspells, library manipulation, card draw/selection, and so on are unfair, or even unfun. I just love to hate them!
As for the new sets not offering Legacy much, that doesn't really matter either. The Legacy card pool is quite large enough already. The metagame has a natural cycle. It doesn't need artificial impetus from new sets for forward motion.
Before Innistrad block, blue had relatively normal creatures concerning power level, but Delver and Snapcaster are clearly among the best creatures in the format and that shouldn't be like that.
I'm not saying that is unfair or unfun, that's how blue has always been and players are used to the fact that maybe you won't be able to play your key spell because of FoW, which is fair, otherwise combo would be everywhere and non-blue decks wouldn't have a chance. Fortunately, because blue is massively played, those non-blue players can sleep peacefully knowing they can beat those blue decks with their own fair tactics, and will lose to combo players most of the time.
The thing that I specifically hate about blue is Delver of Secrets, a creature that aggresively costed shouldn't have evasion, concerning red and green are the colors that should have the most efficient beaters.
On a side note: The color I hate the least is RED. Red is so weak overall, I have to respect a player that takes the color seriously.
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Yeah man, it seems that Grim Lavamancer was a step in the right direction. I just don't get why they do not continue on that path. I remember that Hammer of Bogardan (when it was released) was a pretty good card, once you started to top deck. Why can't red have a more efficient version of that card and so forth? Blue and to a lesser extent black shouldn't be the only ones that are able to develop card advantage (green and white can but even less so).
Goblin and burn decks can only go so far on their own. Gotta love the red players!
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Red isn't just Goblins and Burn, both of which are very respectable. Goblins, in particular, is storied deck with possibly the most illustrious career in all of Legacy.
Belcher ranges from half-red to almost entirely ruby-colored. Plus there's the rarely-seen-but-still-amazing Dragon Stompy.
I don't really pay attention to colors except for what they bring to each deck. I mean, I really dislike specific cards from certain colors, but don't mind each individual.
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In the wide range of multi-color decks, it seems that red still brings the least to the table. I guess red has some cool options, but not as vast as any of the other colors. Whittling down an opponents life with spells is not that efficient in Legacy?
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Red isn't just Goblins and Burn, both of which are very respectable. Goblins, in particular, is storied deck with possibly the most illustrious career in all of Legacy.
Belcher ranges from half-red to almost entirely ruby-colored. Plus there's the rarely-seen-but-still-amazing Dragon Stompy.
All my favorite combo decks are red!
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What's the big deal? You could have played multiple Righteous Avengers for years now.
My favorite color is black, and sadly I don't have a single legacy deck thats black right now. My least favorite is white. Well I suppose I do have Pox to play.
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I have to go with blue as my most detested color. Red is, of course, my favorite. I suppose it has to do with the fact that when I started playing magic over a decade ago I was in a powered meta full of vintage level cards. Of course, everyone played blue/artifact and detested red. Small wonder I love red so much! There is just something oh so satisfying about beating the pants off of a fancy blue deck with thousands of dollars in cards with a 50 dollar red deck full of commons!
Blue is the most hated color by far. It's mostly because blue has been given the most unfair effects. Counterspells that deal with all card types, where other colors have to run specific answers? Check. Best positive interactions with Artifacts? Check. Tolarian Academy? Check. Pure card advantage? Check.
There's even a mono blue storm deck. Even black couldn't pull that one off, and it has Dark Ritual and Ad Nauseam.
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Legacy Decks:
- Deadguy Ale WB
- Imperial Bloodwolf R
- Rifter RW
- Rockman WBG
- Burn R
- T.E.S. WUBRG
- Belcher RG
- 10 Land Stompy G
- Zoo (budget) RGW
I don't really dislike blue but really it's because Goblins was my first deck and I have a field day when the room is blue. Nice FoW, Daze, Spell Pierce etc. you got there. I do think it’s the color most likely to be unfun to play against though. Even if we don't have decks like draw-go in the format, those decks existed in the past as more or less grief driven decks.
I think green tends to be my least favorite color because I like being able to interact more than green allows.
My least favorite color is white. When I played casually, I found it's stalling via lifegain to be irritating. Now that I play Storm as my favorite Legacy deck, I find dodging Force of Will and Spell Pierce to be a joke, but cards like Thalia, Rest in Peace, Dryad Militant, and Ethersworn Canonist all upset me. I don't like white for flavor reasons, and loathe it for gameplay reasons.
Brown, to me, is cooler than being cool. MUD baby! If only all the cards actually were brown. Too many are gray, which damages the comedic effect of playing with p**p-colored cards. How anyone could resist that, is beyond me.
Haha Lormador. I want to make my Forgemaster deck which runs like MUD sort of to be entirely brown. For starters I've petitioned for a playset of Brown-Bordered Lodestone Golems. I can't wait.
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The whole MUD family deserves massive respect. I'm just bummed the lands are a bit pricey, and some distance from my current collection. But anything non-blue is ok in my book.
I agree with the poster who praised D&T's elegance as a control deck.
I dislike white aswell... however I can in some way like aspects of all the colors. I dont like being poxed to death, however I love drawing cards off a Confidant.
Perhaps I just really hate Batterskull and Mystic ^^
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I love to hate blue.
However, I respect that some players may feel differently, so I will allow the community to post their own preferences, despite those preferences being less valid than my own should they differ from it
Overall record: 139-98-15
Total number of matches: 252
Win percentage ignoring draws: 58.649789
Win percentage including draws: 55.158730
If you check red or green, which in someway can put decent fights against u/x decks in standard, their creatures have zero to non-impact in legacy. Thragtusk is unplayable, so is Restoration Angel and Huntmaster of the Fells. DKA, AVR, M13 brought nothing really playable to the G/R colors, while W aggro decks got only Thalia.
GBW NO Elves / Aggro Elves
GBWU Combo Elves
EDH Decks:
Duel Commander:
GG Thrun, the last Trolololol GG
GW The Captain WG
GWB Karadores BWG
GWU Jenara UWG
UWB Oloro-DD BWU
Regular EDH:
GBW Ghave the Enchanter WBG
I don't think Blue's tactics of counterspells, library manipulation, card draw/selection, and so on are unfair, or even unfun. I just love to hate them!
As for the new sets not offering Legacy much, that doesn't really matter either. The Legacy card pool is quite large enough already. The metagame has a natural cycle. It doesn't need artificial impetus from new sets for forward motion.
Overall record: 139-98-15
Total number of matches: 252
Win percentage ignoring draws: 58.649789
Win percentage including draws: 55.158730
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I'm not saying that is unfair or unfun, that's how blue has always been and players are used to the fact that maybe you won't be able to play your key spell because of FoW, which is fair, otherwise combo would be everywhere and non-blue decks wouldn't have a chance. Fortunately, because blue is massively played, those non-blue players can sleep peacefully knowing they can beat those blue decks with their own fair tactics, and will lose to combo players most of the time.
The thing that I specifically hate about blue is Delver of Secrets, a creature that aggresively costed shouldn't have evasion, concerning red and green are the colors that should have the most efficient beaters.
GBW NO Elves / Aggro Elves
GBWU Combo Elves
EDH Decks:
Duel Commander:
GG Thrun, the last Trolololol GG
GW The Captain WG
GWB Karadores BWG
GWU Jenara UWG
UWB Oloro-DD BWU
Regular EDH:
GBW Ghave the Enchanter WBG
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Yeah man, it seems that Grim Lavamancer was a step in the right direction. I just don't get why they do not continue on that path. I remember that Hammer of Bogardan (when it was released) was a pretty good card, once you started to top deck. Why can't red have a more efficient version of that card and so forth? Blue and to a lesser extent black shouldn't be the only ones that are able to develop card advantage (green and white can but even less so).
Goblin and burn decks can only go so far on their own. Gotta love the red players!
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:symg::symr::symb: JUND
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:symb::symu::symr: ANT
Belcher ranges from half-red to almost entirely ruby-colored. Plus there's the rarely-seen-but-still-amazing Dragon Stompy.
Overall record: 139-98-15
Total number of matches: 252
Win percentage ignoring draws: 58.649789
Win percentage including draws: 55.158730
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
Church of the Wary
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Also, I can't help but gleefully point out that Thalia (and really the entire D+T style of deck) makes blue look unwieldy and ponderous.
Besides, Red has the best deck (one of them anyways) in the format, has had it for 8 years (Goblins)
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All my favorite combo decks are red!
Standard:
GWBSomething dont really care any more.
Legacy:
GWBNic Fit
WBDeadguy Ale
EDH:
GWB Karador, Ghost Chieftain
RUGRiku, of the Twin Reflections
UR Melek, Izzet Paragon
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There's even a mono blue storm deck. Even black couldn't pull that one off, and it has Dark Ritual and Ad Nauseam.
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Legacy Decks:
- Imperial Bloodwolf R
- Rifter RW
- Rockman WBG
- Burn R
- T.E.S. WUBRG
- Belcher RG
- 10 Land Stompy G
- Zoo (budget) RGW
This made me laugh real hard. I don't know why.
Legacy:
combo elves
Modern:
White Rock (41-24-4 in matches. Beginning 10/14/14. Last updated 1/2/15)
List:
4 Dark Confidant
3 Siege Rhino
1 Thrun, The Last Troll
Spells - 20
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Thoughtseize
4 abrupt decay
2 maelstrom pulse
1 slaughter pact
1 path to exile
1 Disfigure
1 damnation
3 lingering souls
NCP - 4
3 Liliana of the Veil
1 Bow of Nylea
4 verdant Catacombs
2 marsh flats
2 windswept heath
2 Swamp
1 Forest
1 Plains
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
3 overgrown tomb
1 godless shrine
1 temple garden
1 Treetop Village
2 stirring wildwood
2 Tectonic Edge
4 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Thrun, the last troll
2 Duress
1 Creeping Corrosion
2 Stony Silence
2 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Back to nature
1 Utter End
1 Golgari Charm
My favorite color is Black I love discard, LD, and Card advantage, whenever I can I build Black decks.
Unless we count Dredge as a color than that gets my vote for favorite color
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I think green tends to be my least favorite color because I like being able to interact more than green allows.
Brown, to me, is cooler than being cool. MUD baby! If only all the cards actually were brown. Too many are gray, which damages the comedic effect of playing with p**p-colored cards. How anyone could resist that, is beyond me.
Overall record: 139-98-15
Total number of matches: 252
Win percentage ignoring draws: 58.649789
Win percentage including draws: 55.158730
Standard:
GWBSomething dont really care any more.
Legacy:
GWBNic Fit
WBDeadguy Ale
EDH:
GWB Karador, Ghost Chieftain
RUGRiku, of the Twin Reflections
UR Melek, Izzet Paragon
Artwork by Bornnover of Hakai Studios
That's what Magic is about, after all. A game of poker. With dragons.
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I agree with the poster who praised D&T's elegance as a control deck.
Overall record: 139-98-15
Total number of matches: 252
Win percentage ignoring draws: 58.649789
Win percentage including draws: 55.158730
Perhaps I just really hate Batterskull and Mystic ^^
Said about Yawgmoth’s Will
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GURRUG Delver
RGoblins
RUGPunishing Balance
Modern:
UR Izzet Tron