@bleed.the.sky: Actually, unless an effect specifies otherwise, exiled cards are face-up. Thus, your exiled library will be face-up, and you can Doomsday stuff out of it with the Mirror.
More on topic, the combo may be viable in Tron. Just be sure to maintain the core pieces of the deck.
@bleed.the.sky: Actually, unless an effect specifies otherwise, exiled cards are face-up. Thus, your exiled library will be face-up, and you can Doomsday stuff out of it with the Mirror.
More on topic, the combo may be viable in Tron. Just be sure to maintain the core pieces of the deck.
but Tron already have much more consistent win conditions. You need 10 at the same turn, pretty much like Mindslaver, but Mindslaver is a 1 card that screws your opponent if resolved. Neither Leveler or Mirror of Fate alone are as good as a Mindslaver.
Mindslaver can't kill them, it requires some other card to kill them. so i don't see the difference. This combo can also queue up the other combos to make the deck have less dead draws
Mindslaver can't kill them, it requires some other card to kill them. so i don't see the difference. This combo can also queue up the other combos to make the deck have less dead draws
Mindslaver might not outright kill them, but you can usually wreck them pretty badly. Plus, on 13 mana (one of them being Academy Ruins), you do beat them. Because you just take their turns for the rest of the game and they draw out.
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Mindslaver might not outright kill them, but you can usually wreck them pretty badly. Plus, on 13 mana (one of them being Academy Ruins), you do beat them. Because you just take their turns for the rest of the game and they draw out.
that's true, but what's to say that this combo wouldn't make that combo easier to get, i understand it's not worth testing (too vulnerable, leveler has NO evasion, both can easily be taken care of) but i was simply wondering if it would be worth putting in there
leveler doesn't have trample..so you cast it, put 7 cards on top, and still dont win. i'd love to see it or the mirror krosan gripped. heck, he could even be chump blocked several times. it's nowhere near as good as other ext combo decks.
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leveler doesn't have trample..so you cast it, put 7 cards on top, and still dont win. i'd love to see it or the mirror krosan gripped. heck, he could even be chump blocked several times. it's nowhere near as good as other ext combo decks.
that's what i was thinking, thanks for that, i guess i'll shoot it to the casual tables sometime.
Opponent says "Krosan Grip" or "Ancient Grudge" or "Disenchant" or "Repeal" or "Cryptic Command" or fourty other instant-speed answers, and gets rid of the Mirror.
Leveler resolves, opponent lols.
This wouldn't be such a massive issue if Affinity and Gifts-Fae weren't such gigantic decks, but literally everyone has artifact hate SB (if not MD), and can generally deal with the combo painlessly. When your deck's best possible play on any given turn is losing the game, you need to get a new deck.
could leveler be used with thran foundry? The effect of thran foundry is : remove thran foundry from the game target player shuffles his graveyard into his library
could leveler be used with thran foundry? The effect of thran foundry is : remove thran foundry from the game target player shuffles his graveyard into his library
I don't think Either card is extended legal.
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More on topic, the combo may be viable in Tron. Just be sure to maintain the core pieces of the deck.
but Tron already have much more consistent win conditions. You need 10 at the same turn, pretty much like Mindslaver, but Mindslaver is a 1 card that screws your opponent if resolved. Neither Leveler or Mirror of Fate alone are as good as a Mindslaver.
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Mindslaver might not outright kill them, but you can usually wreck them pretty badly. Plus, on 13 mana (one of them being Academy Ruins), you do beat them. Because you just take their turns for the rest of the game and they draw out.
A card game about Presidents. Stabbing each other. With knives.
True. I admit, I don't play Tron, or for that matter much Extended, so I'll leave the playability up to those who know what they're doing.
that's true, but what's to say that this combo wouldn't make that combo easier to get, i understand it's not worth testing (too vulnerable, leveler has NO evasion, both can easily be taken care of) but i was simply wondering if it would be worth putting in there
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that's what i was thinking, thanks for that, i guess i'll shoot it to the casual tables sometime.
Mirror down, play Leveler.
Opponent says "Krosan Grip" or "Ancient Grudge" or "Disenchant" or "Repeal" or "Cryptic Command" or fourty other instant-speed answers, and gets rid of the Mirror.
Leveler resolves, opponent lols.
This wouldn't be such a massive issue if Affinity and Gifts-Fae weren't such gigantic decks, but literally everyone has artifact hate SB (if not MD), and can generally deal with the combo painlessly. When your deck's best possible play on any given turn is losing the game, you need to get a new deck.
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I don't think Either card is extended legal.