In what universe? If you build a deck like that, and ever draw that hand, I will personally come to wherever you live, perform complicated acts of awestruck *********, then disembowel myself to escape the world that allowed something like to to occur and validate you.
I'd lose the Roil Elemental. It's just bait ofr LIghtning Bolt, Burst Lightning and other burn spells. The only reaoson why it is good because of the Landfall effect, but wouldn't it be better to have more early game threats?
-1 Roil Elemental
+1 Putrid Leech
The rest looks great. How does the Jace work for you?
I think Rampaging Baloths and/or Thornling would fit well in here. One takes advantage of all the landfall, and the other takes advantage of all that ramped mana. Both are great against Jund.
I think Rampaging Baloths and/or Thornling would fit well in here. One takes advantage of all the landfall, and the other takes advantage of all that ramped mana. Both are great against Jund.
I'd drop the crabs for a 4th Leech, at least 2 Thornlings, and a third Thornling or another random.
Outside of Pulse, Jund has few ways of dealing with multiple creatures outside of combat, and 4/4 is bigger than most of their guys. With so much ramp, you can leave some lands or Khalni heart to crack the turn you drop the Baloths, and get a few tokens before he (probably) eats removal.
I'd drop the crabs for a 4th Leech, at least 2 Thornlings, and a third Thornling or another random.
Outside of Pulse, Jund has few ways of dealing with multiple creatures outside of combat, and 4/4 is bigger than most of their guys. With so much ramp, you can leave some lands or Khalni heart to crack the turn you drop the Baloths, and get a few tokens before he (probably) eats removal.
Ok I like your reasoning so
-4 Hedron Crab
+1 Baloths
+2 Thornling
+1 Leech
I was thinking of mind spring and lorescale coatl do you think they possibly have a spot in here?
He doesn't seem that amazing, but with this much ramp he makes board presence fast. I first got wise to his anti-Jundness in the original deck tech video for Magical Christmasland with Conley Woods from Worlds. I just assumed that Ob Nixilis was strictly better, but Woods played more Baloth over Ob because he's better against Jund, it got me thinking and made a lot of sense. You've got to wait until you're pretty dang sure they're not holding Pulse, but he's worth it.
With that small change, I really like this deck. I think I might sleeve this up for a bit, I tried playing retarded BUG for a while, but the landfall mechanic coupled with tons of ramp seems really good in those colors.
He doesn't seem that amazing, but with this much ramp he makes board presence fast. I first got wise to his anti-Jundness in the original deck tech video for Magical Christmasland with Conley Woods from Worlds. I just assumed that Ob Nixilis was strictly better, but Woods played more Baloth over Ob because he's better against Jund, it got me thinking and made a lot of sense. You've got to wait until you're pretty dang sure they're not holding Pulse, but he's worth it.
With that small change, I really like this deck. I think I might sleeve this up for a bit, I tried playing retarded BUG for a while, but the landfall mechanic coupled with tons of ramp seems really good in those colors.
Well I'm playing this in a tourney tomorrow so I'll post my results after
With no first turn plays, Terramorphic isn't bad. I have a feeling Sphinx, Roil, Jace, and Ob Nix are often going to be hard to cast unless a Lotus Cobra is out, but Cobra and ramp fix that well.
Overall it looks like a good deck, though i would put in Ob Nixilis, even though it might be a problem to get out, it IS a landfall deck, with cobra, so you should get a lot of mana to spend on him.
Suggestions appreciated
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Misty Rainforest
3 Drowned Catacombs
5 Forest
4 Island
4 Swamp
Creatures 20
4 Birds of Paradise
3 Putrid Leech
4 Lotus Cobra
3 Vampire Nighthawk
3 Sphinx of Jwar Isle
3 Thornling
4 Maelstrom Pulse
4 Agony Warp
3 Harrow
2 Mind Spring
Planewalkers 3
2 Jace Beleren
1 Garruk Wildspeaker
4 Acidic Slime
4 Flashfreeze
2 Pithing Needle
3 Great Sable Stag
2 Mind Shatter
-1 Roil Elemental
+1 Putrid Leech
The rest looks great. How does the Jace work for you?
Garruk Wildspeaker and Rampaging Baloths would also like to have a word with you.
Edit:
Manabase suggestion! -4 Terramorphic Expanse, +4 Drowned Catacombs.
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It actually works quite well in the deck because obviously if I drop it turn one people immediately think I am playing mill or something.
But in spite of that I might go
-4 Hedron Crab
+3 Lorescale Coatl
+1 Mind Spring
Or if you can think of anything better?
I like terramorphic over catacombs here because it triggers landfall.
Rampaging Baloths is nice but I prefer the one of Roil Elemental
Im not sure whether I'm running enough creatures for garruk to be worthwhile but it's worth a thought
EDH:
W Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
GB Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
What do u suggest I take out for Thornling?
I wouldnt say Baloths is that great against Jund
Outside of Pulse, Jund has few ways of dealing with multiple creatures outside of combat, and 4/4 is bigger than most of their guys. With so much ramp, you can leave some lands or Khalni heart to crack the turn you drop the Baloths, and get a few tokens before he (probably) eats removal.
EDH:
W Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
GB Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
Ok I like your reasoning so
-4 Hedron Crab
+1 Baloths
+2 Thornling
+1 Leech
I was thinking of mind spring and lorescale coatl do you think they possibly have a spot in here?
He doesn't seem that amazing, but with this much ramp he makes board presence fast. I first got wise to his anti-Jundness in the original deck tech video for Magical Christmasland with Conley Woods from Worlds. I just assumed that Ob Nixilis was strictly better, but Woods played more Baloth over Ob because he's better against Jund, it got me thinking and made a lot of sense. You've got to wait until you're pretty dang sure they're not holding Pulse, but he's worth it.
With that small change, I really like this deck. I think I might sleeve this up for a bit, I tried playing retarded BUG for a while, but the landfall mechanic coupled with tons of ramp seems really good in those colors.
EDH:
W Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
GB Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
Well I'm playing this in a tourney tomorrow so I'll post my results after
Just one other question should I be playing Terramorphic or Drowned Catacombs
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Terramorphic Expanse
5 Forest
4 Island
3 Swamp
Creatures 19
4 Putrid Leech
3 Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
4 Sphinx of Jwar Isle
4 Lotus Cobra
1 Roil Elemental
2 Thornling
1 Rampaging Baloths
4 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Agony Warp
4 Harrow
4 Khalni Heart Expedition
Planewalkers 3
3 Jace Beleren
4 Acidic Slime
3 Spreading Seas
2 Great Sable Stag
4 Flashfreeze
2 Pithing Needle
EDH:
W Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
GB Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
But I managed to go 4-2 losing to naya lightsaber and a regular bant build
Heres the List
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Misty Rainforest
3 Drowned Catacombs
5 Forest
4 Island
4 Swamp
Creatures 20
4 Birds of Paradise
3 Putrid Leech
4 Lotus Cobra
3 Vampire Nighthawk
3 Sphinx of Jwar Isle
3 Thornling
4 Maelstrom Pulse
4 Agony Warp
3 Harrow
2 Mind Spring
Planewalkers 3
2 Jace Beleren
1 Garruk Wildspeaker
4 Acidic Slime
4 Flashfreeze
2 Pithing Needle
3 Great Sable Stag
2 Mind Shatter
Overall I was happy with how this ran and I think I will keep this list at least until wwk
What do you suggest I take out for Ob Nixilis?
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