I'm 18 years older than my ten year old brother and 21 years older than my 7 year old niece who live together and so far seeing them grow up together I really would like a boy over a girl.
However like another person said earlier, I am a sucker for cutesy things...but my niece is a terror and very moody and high maintenance. My brother is more like me, laid back, chill, well behaved (so far) and I can only hope/expect to have a boy like me and him.
I'm a little bit scared of mod recourse but this thread really reminds me of the dating scene in the movie Bad Boys. The one where Will Smith and Martin Lawrence grills the new boyfriend.
After finishing master courses in gender studies, the pros for a boy outweigh that of a girl and viceversa for cons.
I don't want to get into a full blown thesis, so here are some points:
- The Macho Paradox: it is about how society recognizes how different sexes of children should be raised. ex Boys grow up to have this career, girls do differently. (However, changes are being made for equality, but in most environments, it is difficult to tilt the scales). See book by Katz
- Mommy track is still around in businesses.
- Nickel and Dimed - men are already naturally given steps ahead of women. See the book "Nickel and Dimed" by Barbara Ehrenreich.
- "the price of motherhood" - the most important job in the world is still the least valued. I understand it is not about raising children, but I feel raising a child goes all the way through college as they are still dependent.
Edit - for me, the movie "Taken" scares the crap out of me. Along with human trafficking in general.
I hope that my experience with twin boys is atypical in nature, but after dealing with two five year old human cyclones, I think having a girl would be a breath of fresh air. I love my boys but holy **** are they messy. It's like living with beings that are chaos incarnate and completely hell-bent on destruction.
I don't want to have to deal with dating. Or, you know, walking in on something.
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I have a son, but no daughter, so I don't have anything to compare him to. On a whole he isn't overly hard to raise, he's only two though, so I am not exactly super far into this whole fatherhood thing.
Overall, I am happy with what I got, but I probably would have said that if he had been a girl.
I have a son, but no daughter, so I don't have anything to compare him to. On a whole he isn't overly hard to raise, he's only two though, so I am not exactly super far into this whole fatherhood thing.
Overall, I am happy with what I got, but I probably would have said that if he had been a girl.
Because that doesn't happen when you have a son.
Sure it does but you can high five your son and congratulate him if he gets a girl to his room. You cannot do that when you have a girl.
Sure it does but you can high five your son and congratulate him if he gets a girl to his room. You cannot do that when you have a girl.
I dont even.....
As a single father, I think I'd have been better off with a boy as opposed to my daughter. There are just certain things im ill equipped to handle properly (and theyre all starting to creep ever so closer to reality).
*Note to self: Must high five my daughter (if I have one) after each sexual conquest.
Ditto.
As to me, I was pretty happy when I found out I was going to have a girl. 1) I related better to girls when I was growing up, and 2) I am hoping she smashes some gender stereotypes as she grows up (I had no idea how pervasive they were until she was born - and they are EVERYWHERE).
Since then, I have perused the articles and - average statistics only - there are two sides to it. I suspect that parenting (and socioeconomic background, schooling, etc) would dominate the average statistics.
Boys are more likely to die in an accident (ratio of boys/girls declines from 107/100 at birth to maybe 103/100 at 18), more likely to spend time in prison (and 3x as likely to be murdered), less likely to graduate college, less communicative, etc. The areas where girls lag have been mentioned - sexual assault is the one I'm most concerned about, even if the odds are 1/6 - i.e., a 5/6 chance that it won't happen to her.
My wife wanted a boy who might carry on my family name, but I'm indifferent - and don't really understand why it would be important to her ... since, you know, it's not her last name.
Think of all the douchebag teenagers you see nowadays. You walk in on your daughter, your "baby girl", getting railed by one of said douchebags. It's a nightmare. I think I'd rather get punched in the nuts.
You walk in on your son you ****in high five him after.
I'm a guy. I've been a greaseball at moments and just have just banged a chick just because I could. No feelings. No emotional attachment. Just P in V. There is a difference. I think we are naturally more protective of our daughters than our sons. Mainly because we ourselves know how much guys can be ***holes.
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Before my daughter was born, I would have said boy, no contest. Six years later and I wouldn't change having a girl for anything. She really means the world to me and I couldn't be more happy to have had her. Ask me again in when she's a teenager and I may change my mind though.
All I can say is that before you have one you can hope and dream all you want, but after it happens, all that matters is that they're there.
Think of all the douchebag teenagers you see nowadays. You walk in on your daughter, your "baby girl", getting railed by one of said douchebags. It's a nightmare. I think I'd rather get punched in the nuts.
You walk in on your son you ****in high five him after.
I'm a guy. I've been a greaseball at moments and just have just banged a chick just because I could. No feelings. No emotional attachment. Just P in V. There is a difference. I think we are naturally more protective of our daughters than our sons. Mainly because we ourselves know how much guys can be ***holes.
This guy. This guy gets it.
I find your sort of attitude disgusting.
People like you are the reason why practically no one in this thread has said "daughter", and I sincerely hope that you never have a son that you can mold into a douchebag.
The statistics are comforting, but I'm gonna say that I'd probably want a daughter even without them. I feel confident in my ability to teach, support and empower my potential child, even in spite of social barriers.
And if we're being honest, there's still plenty of them in front of women. (Glass ceilings and all that.)
Really, all the stats tell me is that boys are more likely to get in the way of their own success (through reckless, self-destructive behavior).
Think of all the douchebag teenagers you see nowadays. You walk in on your daughter, your "baby girl", getting railed by one of said douchebags. It's a nightmare. I think I'd rather get punched in the nuts.
I'll be very pragmatic here: I mostly just care about my potential child being safe and giving consent.
Assuming your scenario was consensual and protection was used, I just don't see the issue. Humans are sexual beings. My potential child will be an adult one day. They'll likely have sex. Big deal.
Also, I probably have more faith than you do in my hypothetical daughter choosing a good person as a partner. The daughter you describe has bad taste, apparently.
You walk in on your son you ****in high five him after.
So, your daughter should be chaste because men are pigs. But it's fine for your son to treat someone else's daughter as little more than a notch in his belt. Nice double standard there.
I'm a guy. I've been a greaseball at moments and just hjust because I could. No feelings. No emotional attachment. Just P in V. There is a difference. I think we are naturally more protective of our daughters than our sons. Mainly because we ourselves know how much guys can be ***holes.
This guy. This guy gets it.
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For selfish reasons, I would want a girl so I can "right the wrongs" of my childhood. For example, I never went to any summer camps because my parents couldn't afford them. Think of all the missed connections / friendships.
For selfish reasons, I would want a girl so I can "right the wrongs" of my childhood. For example, I never went to any summer camps because my parents couldn't afford them. Think of all the missed connections / friendships.
I didn't mention this in my initial post but I am right there with you.
Neither of my sisters had an involved father, both of their fathers being my own. I have the closest relationship with him despite not living with him for 20 years (im 28 mind you).
So I'd be thrilled to be a great parent. My older brother is such a dedicated father because of our own and I know if I want children I could do it.
The statistics are comforting, but I'm gonna say that I'd probably want a daughter even without them. I feel confident in my ability to teach, support and empower my potential child, even in spite of social barriers.
And if we're being honest, there's still plenty of them in front of women. (Glass ceilings and all that.)
Really, all the stats tell me is that boys are more likely to get in the way of their own success (through reckless, self-destructive behavior).
I'll be very pragmatic here: I mostly just care about my potential child being safe and giving consent.
Assuming your scenario was consensual and protection was used, I just don't see the issue. Humans are sexual beings. My potential child will be an adult one day. They'll likely have sex. Big deal.
Also, I probably have more faith than you do in my hypothetical daughter choosing a good person as a partner. The daughter you describe has bad taste, apparently.
So, your daughter should be chaste because men are pigs. But it's fine for your son to treat someone else's daughter as little more than a notch in his belt. Nice double standard there.
I think he is just commenting on the different stereotypes men and women have regarding sex. To be honest I would probably not be all that thrilled if a child of mine was having underage sex no matter what the gender. That last post of mine was just a bad attempt at humor actually.
Men often think that having sex is somewhat of an accomplishment while women are often expected to be the keepers of chastity. You know the raging sex maniac vs the virgin mary figures. Gender stereotypes I know but still they do exist
I would be thrilled with either, but for selfish reasons if I had to pick one I feel like raising a boy would somehow be "easier". That despite my screw ups, a boy would have a better chance of ending up in a good place.
I'm not saying it's right, but gender stereotypes do exist in society. My personal feeling is that there are more detrimental ones for females than for males. I know it's only a very small view but I look at advertising for example. Girls are constantly bombarded with media telling them that the most important thing is how they look, where at least guys often get targeted by media that emphasize qualities like responsibility, honesty, and hard work (ie every truck commercial). No matter what you do your kid is going to be exposed to an ungodly amount of this growing up, so given the choice I know which category of media reinforcement I would prefer my child be subjected to.
Also, as a man I dread having to deal with a daughter going through the whole high school/girl clique/drama stage of life.
I find it interesting that the main consensus is that boys are somehow easier.
I've two adult daughters and plenty of friends with boys. At age 18 both of my
daughters moved out, got jobs and grew up. Most of my friends with boys still have them living at home.
Once again I'll reiterate, the ease of raising a child has more to do with their(and your) personality than with gender.
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However like another person said earlier, I am a sucker for cutesy things...but my niece is a terror and very moody and high maintenance. My brother is more like me, laid back, chill, well behaved (so far) and I can only hope/expect to have a boy like me and him.
Word.
I don't want to get into a full blown thesis, so here are some points:
- The Macho Paradox: it is about how society recognizes how different sexes of children should be raised. ex Boys grow up to have this career, girls do differently. (However, changes are being made for equality, but in most environments, it is difficult to tilt the scales). See book by Katz
- Mommy track is still around in businesses.
- Nickel and Dimed - men are already naturally given steps ahead of women. See the book "Nickel and Dimed" by Barbara Ehrenreich.
- "the price of motherhood" - the most important job in the world is still the least valued. I understand it is not about raising children, but I feel raising a child goes all the way through college as they are still dependent.
Edit - for me, the movie "Taken" scares the crap out of me. Along with human trafficking in general.
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I don't want to have to deal with dating. Or, you know, walking in on something.
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A girl it seems like a lot can go wrong and being a guy it can be incredibly difficult for you to help even give advice etc.
Overall, I am happy with what I got, but I probably would have said that if he had been a girl.
Because that doesn't happen when you have a son.
Sure it does but you can high five your son and congratulate him if he gets a girl to his room. You cannot do that when you have a girl.
I dont even.....
As a single father, I think I'd have been better off with a boy as opposed to my daughter. There are just certain things im ill equipped to handle properly (and theyre all starting to creep ever so closer to reality).
That being said, if I could be guaranteed that everything went to plan with raising the kid, I'd much rather have a daughter.
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As to me, I was pretty happy when I found out I was going to have a girl. 1) I related better to girls when I was growing up, and 2) I am hoping she smashes some gender stereotypes as she grows up (I had no idea how pervasive they were until she was born - and they are EVERYWHERE).
Since then, I have perused the articles and - average statistics only - there are two sides to it. I suspect that parenting (and socioeconomic background, schooling, etc) would dominate the average statistics.
Boys are more likely to die in an accident (ratio of boys/girls declines from 107/100 at birth to maybe 103/100 at 18), more likely to spend time in prison (and 3x as likely to be murdered), less likely to graduate college, less communicative, etc. The areas where girls lag have been mentioned - sexual assault is the one I'm most concerned about, even if the odds are 1/6 - i.e., a 5/6 chance that it won't happen to her.
My wife wanted a boy who might carry on my family name, but I'm indifferent - and don't really understand why it would be important to her ... since, you know, it's not her last name.
Of course it does.
Think of all the douchebag teenagers you see nowadays. You walk in on your daughter, your "baby girl", getting railed by one of said douchebags. It's a nightmare. I think I'd rather get punched in the nuts.
You walk in on your son you ****in high five him after.
I'm a guy. I've been a greaseball at moments and just have just banged a chick just because I could. No feelings. No emotional attachment. Just P in V. There is a difference. I think we are naturally more protective of our daughters than our sons. Mainly because we ourselves know how much guys can be ***holes.
This guy. This guy gets it.
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I find your sort of attitude disgusting.
People like you are the reason why practically no one in this thread has said "daughter", and I sincerely hope that you never have a son that you can mold into a douchebag.
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And if we're being honest, there's still plenty of them in front of women. (Glass ceilings and all that.)
Really, all the stats tell me is that boys are more likely to get in the way of their own success (through reckless, self-destructive behavior).
I'll be very pragmatic here: I mostly just care about my potential child being safe and giving consent.
Assuming your scenario was consensual and protection was used, I just don't see the issue. Humans are sexual beings. My potential child will be an adult one day. They'll likely have sex. Big deal.
Also, I probably have more faith than you do in my hypothetical daughter choosing a good person as a partner. The daughter you describe has bad taste, apparently.
So, your daughter should be chaste because men are pigs. But it's fine for your son to treat someone else's daughter as little more than a notch in his belt. Nice double standard there.
I'm officially proposing we retire the word "insane" from the MtG vocabulary.
"The best way to be different is to be better" - Gene Muir
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I didn't mention this in my initial post but I am right there with you.
Neither of my sisters had an involved father, both of their fathers being my own. I have the closest relationship with him despite not living with him for 20 years (im 28 mind you).
So I'd be thrilled to be a great parent. My older brother is such a dedicated father because of our own and I know if I want children I could do it.
I think he is just commenting on the different stereotypes men and women have regarding sex. To be honest I would probably not be all that thrilled if a child of mine was having underage sex no matter what the gender. That last post of mine was just a bad attempt at humor actually.
Men often think that having sex is somewhat of an accomplishment while women are often expected to be the keepers of chastity. You know the raging sex maniac vs the virgin mary figures. Gender stereotypes I know but still they do exist
How about teaching your teens to wait until they're ready, with someone who respects them and loves them, sober, and always using protection?
I'm not saying it's right, but gender stereotypes do exist in society. My personal feeling is that there are more detrimental ones for females than for males. I know it's only a very small view but I look at advertising for example. Girls are constantly bombarded with media telling them that the most important thing is how they look, where at least guys often get targeted by media that emphasize qualities like responsibility, honesty, and hard work (ie every truck commercial). No matter what you do your kid is going to be exposed to an ungodly amount of this growing up, so given the choice I know which category of media reinforcement I would prefer my child be subjected to.
Also, as a man I dread having to deal with a daughter going through the whole high school/girl clique/drama stage of life.
I've two adult daughters and plenty of friends with boys. At age 18 both of my
daughters moved out, got jobs and grew up. Most of my friends with boys still have them living at home.
Once again I'll reiterate, the ease of raising a child has more to do with their(and your) personality than with gender.