SO, since Theros Pre-release is going to be similar to RtR in that you pick a color and your Sixth pack reflects it I feel like polling what people will most likely pick for that pack?
Well, I haven't seen the art for the basic lands that have been spoiled so far (I can't believe they're reprinting Island; haven't they realized that card is broken?!?), so I can't really see myself making a call at this stage.
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Well, I haven't seen the art for the basic lands that have been spoiled so far (I can't believe they're reprinting Island; haven't they realized that card is broken?!?), so I can't really see myself making a call at this stage.
We haven't seen a single black card, and we have no clue what any of the colors' profiles will be. We know basically what a couple mechanics are, and we've heard whispers of an enchantment subtheme. How on Earth is this any more than a "what's your favorite color in limited" poll at this stage?
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We haven't seen a single black card, and we have no clue what any of the colors' profiles will be. We know basically what a couple mechanics are, and we've heard whispers of an enchantment subtheme. How on Earth is this any more than a "what's your favorite color in limited" poll at this stage?
We currently know of 4 commons and uncommons of a large set that will have 165ish. It is far too early for this question to be anything but blind personal color preference.
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We currently know of 4 commons and uncommons of a large set that will have 165ish. It is far too early for this question to be anything but blind personal color preference.
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There are plenty of dragons there. They are divided in subtypes etc. According to greek myth, chimara is a dragpn. Maybe one of the other subtypes will be printed as dragons?
There are plenty of dragons there. They are divided in subtypes etc. According to greek myth, chimara is a dragpn. Maybe one of the other subtypes will be printed as dragons?
Hard to say purely on speculation, but I do like the idea of us commiting to single mana base after the heady thrills of Ravnica duals and not so long ago Alara shards.
As Semantics, Actinium, and others have said, there's absolutely no way to make a strategic decision about this right now. Obviously there's nothing meaningful whatsoever that we can say about Theros limited specifically.
In principle, if you thought that one color was significantly more likely to be good than the others for prerelease sealed in general, you'd predict choosing that color now. But let's imagine if you'd been allowed to choose a color for the prereleases of some other sets. I can think of recent examples where each of the five colors would have been, IMO, correct:
White: Innistrad (though really, you wouldn't go too far wrong provided you didn't pick red)
Blue: M14
Black: M13 (with white as a close second), possibly New Phyrexia
Red: M12 for sure, possibly Scars of Mirrodin as well
Green: Avacyn Restored, Rise of the Eldrazi
I mean, these are debatable, but my point is that there is not a clear trend of "Color X is the best sealed color a disproportionate amount of the time", at least not in the last five years or so. There's no basis for making this call yet other than "I like Blue" or similar.
No one has picked White yet, which means it's probably the best color. You'd always have the element of surprise.
Jokes aside, the correct answer to this question will be whichever color has access to the most aggressive cards or the most linear mechanic (one that gets better the more cards you have that share that mechanic). The skewed color distributions mean you can force a particular strategy, and based on Ravnica results, the consistency of having more cards in your color means a lot more to aggro strategies than control.
If I had to guess based on like 5 spoiled cards, whichever color has the most access to Humans might be good since Humans are likely inexpensive, aggressive, and (based on exactly one spoiled card) might have a synergistic theme where having a lot of Humans and Human Helpers like Cavalry Pegasus could put you over the top.
Monsters by comparison seem like very expensive finishers -- likely to cast them in the first place (because who wants a 1/1 or 2/2 "Monster") and then again to use their Monstrosity ability. Many players will be drawn to whichever color has the best Monsters but will probably get overrun by the more aggressive decks available. Satyr Hedonist even points to the fact that the Monsters deck will want ways to generate mana i.e. the good creatures all cost a ton.
Monsters by comparison seem like very expensive finishers -- likely to cast them in the first place (because who wants a 1/1 or 2/2 "Monster") and then again to use their Monstrosity ability. Many players will be drawn to whichever color has the best Monsters but will probably get overrun by the more aggressive decks available. Satyr Hedonist even points to the fact that the Monsters deck will want ways to generate mana i.e. the good creatures all cost a ton.
If you'll allow me a moment of utterly baseless speculation, it might be instructive to consider Design's thought process about the set and how that might influence mechanical options.
If Monsters are to be a genuine theme, then there are two potential outcomes: either removal is terrible, because they want to push Monsters and having quality removal makes expensive creatures relatively worse, or they make the removal plentiful like in Rise of the Eldrazi in order to keep people from being utterly mowed down by the inevitable beast-stick.
I think Rise is about as good a set as we can hope to emulate. It was one of the first that jumped to my mind when they started talking about 'gods and monsters' for Theos. If green, black and red are the Monster colors, like how they were in Rise, then we ought to anticipate some decent acceleration to not only push the monsters out earlier, but to ramp to really big Monstrosity plays.
I'm going to hedge my bets and put my money on that old Sealed staple RG.
I'll bet an Anax and Cymede that white will be the best color in Theros. Mostly, that's just a self-serving prediction because I love white, but I think we may see some really good hero cards in white. And, like Innistrad, there may actually be some very good white removal in Theros.
I'll bet an Anax and Cymede that white will be the best color in Theros. Mostly, that's just a self-serving prediction because I love white, but I think we may see some really good hero cards in white. And, like Innistrad, there may actually be some very good white removal in Theros.
Heliod is a boss, so white will be good.
I have a good feeling about white as well, only it is a bad feeling, cause I don't really like white thet much. But I think there will be some awesome stuffs there for the heroes. Also there is supposed to be enchantment thame. I remember white having been heavy into enchants before.
Okay, now we have something to talk about regarding Theros prerelease colors. Apparently the intro pack rares will once again be the prerelease promos (see this thread).
I dunno, the black rare seems pretty awesome to me. Though black has been suspiciously absent from both of the Planeswalker's Guides we've seen so far.
White is the safest choice barring any particular color sucking like white in m14. If theros winds up being very fast the green one is the most aggressive but you don't want to be throwing away lands for a little damage if it isn't. The black one is the most powerful but the highest up front cost if it's a slow format. The blue one is just kinda bad, like a psuedo angel of serenity effect on monstrous is great but hes never anything but a big expensive vanilla and he can always be chumped or removed.
I'd go for the red one, that's an absurd body for red at 4 and if they lack removal long enough to get to 7 mana with him still alive they probably wont be able to deal with a 7/8 while they have 4 mana.
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We haven't seen a single black card, and we have no clue what any of the colors' profiles will be. We know basically what a couple mechanics are, and we've heard whispers of an enchantment subtheme. How on Earth is this any more than a "what's your favorite color in limited" poll at this stage?
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There are plenty of dragons there. They are divided in subtypes etc. According to greek myth, chimara is a dragpn. Maybe one of the other subtypes will be printed as dragons?
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Chimera, will be interesting to see
I was one of those suckers that made the mistake of picking Golgari way too early at RTR pre-release... not happening again.
Ditto. Corpsejack Menace + Unleash: what could possibly go wrong?
But seriously, without seeing the full spoiler, it's a shot in the dark to pick your Theros pack now.
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In principle, if you thought that one color was significantly more likely to be good than the others for prerelease sealed in general, you'd predict choosing that color now. But let's imagine if you'd been allowed to choose a color for the prereleases of some other sets. I can think of recent examples where each of the five colors would have been, IMO, correct:
White: Innistrad (though really, you wouldn't go too far wrong provided you didn't pick red)
Blue: M14
Black: M13 (with white as a close second), possibly New Phyrexia
Red: M12 for sure, possibly Scars of Mirrodin as well
Green: Avacyn Restored, Rise of the Eldrazi
I mean, these are debatable, but my point is that there is not a clear trend of "Color X is the best sealed color a disproportionate amount of the time", at least not in the last five years or so. There's no basis for making this call yet other than "I like Blue" or similar.
Jokes aside, the correct answer to this question will be whichever color has access to the most aggressive cards or the most linear mechanic (one that gets better the more cards you have that share that mechanic). The skewed color distributions mean you can force a particular strategy, and based on Ravnica results, the consistency of having more cards in your color means a lot more to aggro strategies than control.
If I had to guess based on like 5 spoiled cards, whichever color has the most access to Humans might be good since Humans are likely inexpensive, aggressive, and (based on exactly one spoiled card) might have a synergistic theme where having a lot of Humans and Human Helpers like Cavalry Pegasus could put you over the top.
Monsters by comparison seem like very expensive finishers -- likely to cast them in the first place (because who wants a 1/1 or 2/2 "Monster") and then again to use their Monstrosity ability. Many players will be drawn to whichever color has the best Monsters but will probably get overrun by the more aggressive decks available. Satyr Hedonist even points to the fact that the Monsters deck will want ways to generate mana i.e. the good creatures all cost a ton.
If you'll allow me a moment of utterly baseless speculation, it might be instructive to consider Design's thought process about the set and how that might influence mechanical options.
If Monsters are to be a genuine theme, then there are two potential outcomes: either removal is terrible, because they want to push Monsters and having quality removal makes expensive creatures relatively worse, or they make the removal plentiful like in Rise of the Eldrazi in order to keep people from being utterly mowed down by the inevitable beast-stick.
I think Rise is about as good a set as we can hope to emulate. It was one of the first that jumped to my mind when they started talking about 'gods and monsters' for Theos. If green, black and red are the Monster colors, like how they were in Rise, then we ought to anticipate some decent acceleration to not only push the monsters out earlier, but to ramp to really big Monstrosity plays.
I'm going to hedge my bets and put my money on that old Sealed staple RG.
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but seriously, I don't have a strong color preference in a vacuum, so I'll wait to see what the set looks like.
Heliod is a boss, so white will be good.
I have a good feeling about white as well, only it is a bad feeling, cause I don't really like white thet much. But I think there will be some awesome stuffs there for the heroes. Also there is supposed to be enchantment thame. I remember white having been heavy into enchants before.
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So, we're all playing white now, correct?
What's the deal? Is it super awesome?
I'd go for the red one, that's an absurd body for red at 4 and if they lack removal long enough to get to 7 mana with him still alive they probably wont be able to deal with a 7/8 while they have 4 mana.