Couple pieces of information I just got from @billings_james on the Twitter machine. The first is Thoughtseize, in M14. The guy has a source who also told him Mutavault a week ago. I'd link to his tweets, but on my phone. I know nothing of this guy's source, but I know him not to be an idiot or troll so I trust this information. The other smaller piece of info was filter lands reprints in one of the next two blocks.
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if Thoughtseize is in M14 then :
people will be in red kkk (MM,Ftv20,M14....)
really if it is in i will have to pre-order my box now or will be a sad panda
Hmm... are we sure he's not just parroting Starcity Games' speculation on Thoughtseize and the Filters?
Not calling fake, but it's a bit convenient that both of these pieces of information are in the recent SCG speculation column.
To be fair, they're both easy calls. I know he's not parroting the article, but I don't know how reliable his source it. I believe the information to be solid though or I wouldn't have posted it.
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To be fair, they're both easy calls. I know he's not parroting the article, but I don't know how reliable his source it. I believe the information to be solid though or I wouldn't have posted it.
Well, I for one am in favor of this. Unless they bump it to Mythic, in which case, Rage City.
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Well, I for one am in favor of this. Unless they bump it to Mythic, in which case, Rage City.
Well that would give black 3 mythics, so unlikely. Also, if TS were to change rarity, it would go down, not up. The card is an uncommon through and through.
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Well that would give black 3 mythics, so unlikely. Also, if TS were to change rarity, it would go down, not up. The card is an uncommon through and through.
I absolutely agree, but Modern Masters showed that they aren't afraid of bumping cards up to mythic for almost-purely price reasons (Bob/Goyf), so I could see it. It'd actually be black's FOURTH Mythic (Shadowborn Demon, Liliana, Rise of the Dark Realms) though, so it seems almost impossible.
If this were uncommon... I think people would be upset. But this makes the third pretty big money rare (along with Mutavault and Scavenging Ooze) reprint spoiled, which does kind of excite me for this core set for once.
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Well that would give black 3 mythics, so unlikely. Also, if TS were to change rarity, it would go down, not up. The card is an uncommon through and through.
The demon + darkrealms ritual(?) + Liliana are in
but yeah throughseize would probably go to uncommon if not for it be a money staple that everyone wants
Yeah, Thoughtseize at Mythic doesn't make sense. It's a utility-type spell that isn't super splashy or special-feeling. It's a somewhat better Duress/Despise/Appetite/Inquisition/Distress. And yeah, if it weren't for the money-staple thing, it'd make sense at Uncommon.
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Show me one successful D&T list with 4 Hymns and 4 Thoughtseizes main and i'll show you four successful lists (Ad Nauseum Tendrils, High Tide, Esper Control, Junk Zoo) with 4 Thoughtseizes and no Hymns main. Hymn > Thoughtseize, I'll grant you. But BB is too untenable and they often only have one card you care about.
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But I feel that bringing up Hymn to Tourach when talking about power level of discard spells is akin to bringing up Planar Chaos when arguing that Giant Growth has precedent in Red
It's technically true but it doesn't take in considerations the context
Hymn to Tourach is an uncommon but it's insanely powerful and I think it's fair to say that it easily could've been a rare: those were the early days of Magic, they made mistakes back then.
Also Thoughtseize is B while Hymn is BB: that's a big (huge even) difference when it comes to formats like Vintage and Legacy
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Not calling fake, but it's a bit convenient that both of these pieces of information are in the recent SCG speculation column.
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in a world without inquisition of kozilek appetite for brains and duress, it really only makes sense for thoughtseize to make a comeback. let's face it. distress just didn't cut it... plus thoughtseize would sell packs like crack at a rehab.
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if Thoughtseize is in M14 then :
people will be in red kkk (MM,Ftv20,M14....)
really if it is in i will have to pre-order my box now or will be a sad panda
To be fair, they're both easy calls. I know he's not parroting the article, but I don't know how reliable his source it. I believe the information to be solid though or I wouldn't have posted it.
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Well, I for one am in favor of this. Unless they bump it to Mythic, in which case, Rage City.
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Well that would give black 3 mythics, so unlikely. Also, if TS were to change rarity, it would go down, not up. The card is an uncommon through and through.
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I absolutely agree, but Modern Masters showed that they aren't afraid of bumping cards up to mythic for almost-purely price reasons (Bob/Goyf), so I could see it. It'd actually be black's FOURTH Mythic (Shadowborn Demon, Liliana, Rise of the Dark Realms) though, so it seems almost impossible.
If this were uncommon... I think people would be upset. But this makes the third pretty big money rare (along with Mutavault and Scavenging Ooze) reprint spoiled, which does kind of excite me for this core set for once.
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The demon + darkrealms ritual(?) + Liliana are in
but yeah throughseize would probably go to uncommon if not for it be a money staple that everyone wants
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Ahem.. Hymn to Tourach would like to have a word with you..
To be fair, Hymn should have been rare too. Even by the standards of the time, Hymn was a ridiculous card.
Look at how many Thoughtseize, Duress and Cabal Therapy are played in Vintage and Legacy. I'm pretty sure at least two of those are played more than Hymn to Tourach.
Show me one successful D&T list with 4 Hymns and 4 Thoughtseizes main and i'll show you four successful lists (Ad Nauseum Tendrils, High Tide, Esper Control, Junk Zoo) with 4 Thoughtseizes and no Hymns main. Hymn > Thoughtseize, I'll grant you. But BB is too untenable and they often only have one card you care about.
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Makes me think that Remand will be in either M14 or Theors. There's still a single space in the N&NC for it too.
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Fair point
But I feel that bringing up Hymn to Tourach when talking about power level of discard spells is akin to bringing up Planar Chaos when arguing that Giant Growth has precedent in Red
It's technically true but it doesn't take in considerations the context
Hymn to Tourach is an uncommon but it's insanely powerful and I think it's fair to say that it easily could've been a rare: those were the early days of Magic, they made mistakes back then.
Also Thoughtseize is B while Hymn is BB: that's a big (huge even) difference when it comes to formats like Vintage and Legacy
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