Y u print this at mythic, Wizards? It's not like this guy is the only 2/1 for 2 that draws you cards anymore. He doesn't really feel mythic to me; does this mean that thoughtsieze will be mythic too if they put it in MM?
Also, the art sort of reminds me of Gary Oldman in The Fifth Element.
Duskmantle is a mythic and is slightly worse than Bob. Why shouldn't they make him a mythic?
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Just a brief rant - seriously? Another 2-drop modern staple moved to mythic? Between the gouging, the lower pack numbers per box, and now these ridiculous upgrades to mythic status...how are these reprints going to make these cards move 2 inches in price? I mean, really...what's the point of a reprint set if they don't actually increase the availability of overly expensive cards?
Knew he was gonna be included, really disappointed in Wizards that it is at mythic..like I am legit disappointed and let down that they would cater to the collector crowd like that.
That said, I love the new art. More than the original honestly. Yes it is iconic, yes it is "Bob", but Bob's mug never sat right with me on the card, and the other thing in the art was...weird.
Just a brief rant - seriously? Another 2-drop modern staple moved to mythic? Between the gouging, the lower pack numbers per box, and now these ridiculous upgrades to mythic status...how are these reprints going to make these cards move 2 inches in price? I mean, really...what's the point of a reprint set if they don't actually increase the availability of overly expensive cards?
No worries mate, they don't care about the secondary market at all
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Just a brief rant - seriously? Another 2-drop modern staple moved to mythic? Between the gouging, the lower pack numbers per box, and now these ridiculous upgrades to mythic status...how are these reprints going to make these cards move 2 inches in price? I mean, really...what's the point of a reprint set if they don't actually increase the availability of overly expensive cards?
I think there's going to be more MM out there than people are giving credit for. And I think anyone who was expecting Bob to be printed at anything less than Mythic - especially considering Goyf - was just fooling themselves.
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Not once, in this thread or ever, I complained about something "just because", or responded assuming we were entitled to anything. Your comment is pointless and just annoying.
Modern was created to be the Eternal format of choice - the one Wizards can sculpt, enforce, improve, etc. Legacy couldn't, because of the Reserve List. If it's the Eternal format they want us to play, we need to have the cards. It's as simple as that. When most of the good Modern decks start with 4x Tarmogoyf and 4x Dark Confidant and these cards are up to $100 each, players just won't get into the new format no matter how fun it is. They need to reprint these cards, not as a "gift" to us, but as a way to reach their goal of making Modern a hit. They created the format, and they want the format to be very popular. We didn't ask for it - in fact, personally, I miss Extended (the real one) a LOT.
And they chose to give us our Modern staples in a set where the booster box has 24 packs, the packs are worth twice as much as a regular pack, the printing is limited - reasons why a MM box can be preordered, right now, for as much as $300, which is almost 3x the price of a normal box. On top of everything, the $100 cards every Modern player needs 4 copies of, are Mythic. When a player shells out $300 (or less, if lucky) for a 24-pack box, what are the chances they'll open even ONE Goyf/Bob? Pretty darn slim.
I couldn't care less, really, because Magic thankfully has many cool formats. But if they want me - and you, and everyone else - to join Modern en masse, they need to make the cards affordable. This doesn't mean they have to be dirt cheap - no, I don't want $2 Goyfs, if that's what you're implying with your remark - but this means the cards need to be way closer in availability to Standard than Legacy.
And so far it doesn't look Modern Masters is going in that direction.
Ok, the original art is better. BUT- But the new art is sweet in its own respect. And I don't usually care for Fischer's work. There's something too artificial about it typically, however this piece serves the card's flavor perfectly well.
Why are you people angry at Wizards for making sure your prices don't crash when there's a reprint? They explicitly stated that secondary market value was a problem that wasn't going to be addressed in a way to bring it down. It was being addressed in a way for people to have access to these cards, meaning entering draft and buying boxes. At least you know that when you bite the bullet for buying them, you don't lose.
Yes, because one invitational card not being printed at mythic invalidates the idea of reprinting any others at Mythic.
The problem here is that Mythic is so nebulous a concept that everyone has different, strict standards about what is and isn't so every nonplaneswalker mythic gets complained about that its mythic by one person or another. "This card is too weak/niche, its a waste of a mythic slot." "This card is too strong/staple, they are screwing up by making it mythic." "This just doesn't FEEL mythic to me".
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Ideally, over time, any short-term drop in desirability of older cards you may own will be recouped as more players enter the format.
The purpose of MM has never been to make Modern cheaper. The goal has been for the increased demand to compensate for the increased supply. Any price drop is supposed to be temporary.
The idea that Wizards is lying and is secretly trying to make cards cheaper is a pretty weird conspiracy.
Duskmantle is a mythic and is slightly worse than Bob. Why shouldn't they make him a mythic?
That's literally what is being depicted on the ORIGINAL. Good lord. If the arts were reversed you all would be floored by how stupid it would be.
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Its also kinda weird that the art is supposed to represent you losing. I feel that ability is not the ability most people play him for.
Throw around some more buzzwords; It makes his point less valid (Oh wait, it doesn't.)
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That said, I love the new art. More than the original honestly. Yes it is iconic, yes it is "Bob", but Bob's mug never sat right with me on the card, and the other thing in the art was...weird.
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I think there's going to be more MM out there than people are giving credit for. And I think anyone who was expecting Bob to be printed at anything less than Mythic - especially considering Goyf - was just fooling themselves.
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Although my sleepy eyes somehow initially decided that's Tibalt. Now that was surprising.
The problem with this statement is the assumption that Duskmantle as mythic is correct.
Blood Scrivener is a rare and is slightly worse than Bob. Why shouldn't they make him a rare?
Don't pretend there's any reason he's a mythic other than money.
Edit: Yeah, because every decision in magic is about effing over the customers for cash, and they are all Maro's fault to.
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The problem with this statement is the assumption that Duskmantle as mythic is incorrect.
Just because a mythic is not very good does not mean it does not deserve to be mythic.
Feel free to tell me yours!
Not once, in this thread or ever, I complained about something "just because", or responded assuming we were entitled to anything. Your comment is pointless and just annoying.
Modern was created to be the Eternal format of choice - the one Wizards can sculpt, enforce, improve, etc. Legacy couldn't, because of the Reserve List. If it's the Eternal format they want us to play, we need to have the cards. It's as simple as that. When most of the good Modern decks start with 4x Tarmogoyf and 4x Dark Confidant and these cards are up to $100 each, players just won't get into the new format no matter how fun it is. They need to reprint these cards, not as a "gift" to us, but as a way to reach their goal of making Modern a hit. They created the format, and they want the format to be very popular. We didn't ask for it - in fact, personally, I miss Extended (the real one) a LOT.
And they chose to give us our Modern staples in a set where the booster box has 24 packs, the packs are worth twice as much as a regular pack, the printing is limited - reasons why a MM box can be preordered, right now, for as much as $300, which is almost 3x the price of a normal box. On top of everything, the $100 cards every Modern player needs 4 copies of, are Mythic. When a player shells out $300 (or less, if lucky) for a 24-pack box, what are the chances they'll open even ONE Goyf/Bob? Pretty darn slim.
I couldn't care less, really, because Magic thankfully has many cool formats. But if they want me - and you, and everyone else - to join Modern en masse, they need to make the cards affordable. This doesn't mean they have to be dirt cheap - no, I don't want $2 Goyfs, if that's what you're implying with your remark - but this means the cards need to be way closer in availability to Standard than Legacy.
And so far it doesn't look Modern Masters is going in that direction.
I'm pretty sure SCG knew that this guy was going to be in the set. If anything, seeing it as a mythic will make it less expensive.
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The problem here is that Mythic is so nebulous a concept that everyone has different, strict standards about what is and isn't so every nonplaneswalker mythic gets complained about that its mythic by one person or another. "This card is too weak/niche, its a waste of a mythic slot." "This card is too strong/staple, they are screwing up by making it mythic." "This just doesn't FEEL mythic to me".
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http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/218
The purpose of MM has never been to make Modern cheaper. The goal has been for the increased demand to compensate for the increased supply. Any price drop is supposed to be temporary.
The idea that Wizards is lying and is secretly trying to make cards cheaper is a pretty weird conspiracy.
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